Nationals this weekend and the race I'm most excited about is the 3000. I'm not sure Galen is ready mentally for the type of competition he's about to face, those set-up races then the DNF won't help him on the weekend. After seeing Lagat in Millrose I can't see Rupp beating him. I'm not sure about Hill and it's a pity Leer will run 1500 rather than 3000 (which is the race that will suit him best at Worlds)
After Galen runs this race - and runs it well - you'll have to change your script to "Note to AlSal, this is not an Americans-only race. Is your boy ready?"
In other words, you're trolling, even if you don't know it.
rupp will not make the team
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Why is it that everyone seems to have forgotten about the 2012 Olympics?
Because it's 2014 and Mo won't be there to babysit Rupp around the track.
xenonscreams wrote:
Why is it that everyone seems to have forgotten about the 2012 Olympics?
No kidding. Folks on this board act like he's only ever run time trials. I don't know what it is about Galen Rupp that leaves some people completely unable to think clearly.
xenonscreams wrote:
Why is it that everyone seems to have forgotten about the 2012 Olympics?
1. weak field
2. got lucky
he had a 1% chance of medalling and it just so happened he got it. 99/100 times he would not medalled.
CyndiLoper wrote:
Because it's 2014 and Mo won't be there to babysit Rupp around the track.
Good post, even better handle.
stick with eharmony wrote:
2. got lucky
he had a 1% chance of medalling and it just so happened he got it. 99/100 times he would not medalled.
I'm sorry you got hosed on those odds. How much did you lose?
Nothing like competition wrote:
I'm not sure Galen is ready mentally for the type of competition he's about to face, those set-up races then the DNF won't help him on the weekend. After seeing Lagat in Millrose I can't see Rupp beating him.
Your handle says it all.
Lapping college guys in exquisitely paced time-trials and stepping off the track the one time all year he enters an actual RACE is pretty typical for Rupp.
He refuses to race, therefore refuses to LEARN to race. Ducking THREE options to COMPETE in Millrose (mile, 2000, 3000) was yet another opportunity lost. For the sport, which he doesn't care about, and for himself, which he cares about very much.
This is why Rupp is still running scared of Lagat after all this time. He should be. Lagat is the undisputed chairman of the boards in the US, and is not going to be beaten by Rupp indoors at altitude. Remember this?
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5250614It is remarkable that he can consistently lost to someone when he has faster current ability at the race distance. The fact that Rupp has a faster 3000 ability and can still lose races shows just how bad a tactician he is.
xenonscreams wrote:
Why is it that everyone seems to have forgotten about the 2012 Olympics?
Cause haters gonna hate.
On a more serious note, the challenge facing Rupp in competitive, tactical races is his last lap. It should be quite clear Rupp is in as good or better shape than his competitors.
The reason why people discount the 2012 Olympics is because
a)It was in the 10,000; where Rupp has had some good final laps
b)Rupp hasn't ever had a really stellar last lap in a race shorter than 10,000 EXCEPT for the 2012 trials 5000m vs Lagat
In other words, Rupp's problem (and could well just be a mental issue) is that he struggles to rip a fast last lap when the initial tempo is faster. Clearly, given the trials race, Rupp CAN compete with the best in the world as a 52.xx close in a tactical affair will almost always medal and frequently win.
What I'll really be watching for with interest at USA's is if Rupp can come up with another one of those blistering laps. I just get the feeling if he figures it out again he'll have it down and we will see him contending regularly in international races against top competition.
xenonscreams wrote:
Why is it that everyone seems to have forgotten about the 2012 Olympics?
That was a 10k. This is a 3k. He might come in 5th at USA's. Or DNF, that's more likely. Maybe he'll try out a new pair of Nike socks that will irritate the balls of his feet.
LM wrote:
xenonscreams wrote:Why is it that everyone seems to have forgotten about the 2012 Olympics?
Cause haters gonna hate.
On a more serious note, the challenge facing Rupp in competitive, tactical races is his last lap. It should be quite clear Rupp is in as good or better shape than his competitors.
The reason why people discount the 2012 Olympics is because
a)It was in the 10,000; where Rupp has had some good final laps
b)Rupp hasn't ever had a really stellar last lap in a race shorter than 10,000 EXCEPT for the 2012 trials 5000m vs Lagat
In other words, Rupp's problem (and could well just be a mental issue) is that he struggles to rip a fast last lap when the initial tempo is faster. Clearly, given the trials race, Rupp CAN compete with the best in the world as a 52.xx close in a tactical affair will almost always medal and frequently win.
What I'll really be watching for with interest at USA's is if Rupp can come up with another one of those blistering laps. I just get the feeling if he figures it out again he'll have it down and we will see him contending regularly in international races against top competition.
"frequently win" against the best in the world? what the hell are you talking about?
memory problems wrote:
xenonscreams wrote:Why is it that everyone seems to have forgotten about the 2012 Olympics?
No kidding. Folks on this board act like he's only ever run time trials. I don't know what it is about Galen Rupp that leaves some people completely unable to think clearly.
Why is it that everyone seems to have forgotten the 2012 US Indoors?
Lagat is the defending WC at 3000. Rupp ended up in the 1500 because HE DIDN'T MAKE THE US TEAM IN THE 3000 (Lagat, Lomong). Rupp did nothing in the 1500. And there may have been some Nike shenanigans even getting Rupp on the team, because he actually finished 3rd in the 1500 behind Manzano and Centrowitz (Leo withdrew).
Unlike London, Rupp did not face the weakest African group in years in Istanbul.
Mr. Softie wrote:
LM wrote:Cause haters gonna hate.
On a more serious note, the challenge facing Rupp in competitive, tactical races is his last lap. It should be quite clear Rupp is in as good or better shape than his competitors.
The reason why people discount the 2012 Olympics is because
a)It was in the 10,000; where Rupp has had some good final laps
b)Rupp hasn't ever had a really stellar last lap in a race shorter than 10,000 EXCEPT for the 2012 trials 5000m vs Lagat
In other words, Rupp's problem (and could well just be a mental issue) is that he struggles to rip a fast last lap when the initial tempo is faster. Clearly, given the trials race, Rupp CAN compete with the best in the world as a 52.xx close in a tactical affair will almost always medal and frequently win.
What I'll really be watching for with interest at USA's is if Rupp can come up with another one of those blistering laps. I just get the feeling if he figures it out again he'll have it down and we will see him contending regularly in international races against top competition.
"frequently win" against the best in the world? what the hell are you talking about?
I'm not sure what you are getting at to be honest.
You don't think closing in 52.xx regularly wins races? I can't think of too many 5000m races won with 51.xx, and 50.xx hasn't happened in a 5000/10000 as far as I know, other than Farah doing that 50.89 off of 14:30 pace.
He will flake and the fanboy masses will still come rushing to his defense, these ppl are like a virus
coach d wrote:
memory problems wrote:No kidding. Folks on this board act like he's only ever run time trials. I don't know what it is about Galen Rupp that leaves some people completely unable to think clearly.
Why is it that everyone seems to have forgotten the 2012 US Indoors?
Lagat is the defending WC at 3000. Rupp ended up in the 1500 because HE DIDN'T MAKE THE US TEAM IN THE 3000 (Lagat, Lomong). Rupp did nothing in the 1500. And there may have been some Nike shenanigans even getting Rupp on the team, because he actually finished 3rd in the 1500 behind Manzano and Centrowitz (Leo withdrew).
Unlike London, Rupp did not face the weakest African group in years in Istanbul.
This is exactly what I meant by "unable to think clearly." The OP implied that Rupp can only run well in time-trial races with no competition. That seems to be the prevailing sentiment on the boards this winter. And it's simply not true. All you seem to be saying is he got third twice. So what?
Rupp is so far above the other athletes.
7:30 from much worse fitness. Silver almost two years ago.
ohno wrote:
Rupp is so far above the other athletes.
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Well we'll see on the weekend. My feeling is that Lagat will beat him comfortably and that Rupp might not get second. He didn't seem to handle the altitude well two years ago when easily beaten by Lagat and Lomong. If memory serves me correctly there was a lot of talk going into the race about how he could out-kick anyone including Lagat. How will he run it this time? I'm thinking a race slower than 7:50 but can't see that being a problem for Lagat.
ohno wrote: Rupp is so far above the other athletes. 7:30...
The WR is 7:20.67. Rupp is a full 10 seconds slower. Lagat holds at AR at 7:29. How is Rupp so far above other athletes?