Breathing Xeon to stimulate EPO production

XENON!

*Xenon

You people who do stuff like this. You will never ever be cool. You might get a few seconds faster but you will just be a faster loser. People who are for real will always outshine you.

No one who frequents this board will ever be cool; that ship sailed. We are interested in getting a few seconds faster though...

oh boy here we go again wrote:

You people who do stuff like this. You will never ever be cool. You might get a few seconds faster but you will just be a faster loser. People who are for real will always outshine you.

A few scumbags in Portland are very, very interested in this idea.

"Athletes are allowed to live or train at altitude, or sleep in a low-oxygen tent, in order to stimulate red-cell production. If xenon treatment is merely replicating low-oxygen environments by replacing oxygen with xenon, then its use to enhance athletic performance is permissible."

"In the meantime, sports trainers around the world might be tempted to follow Russia’s example, and reap xenon’s benefits before the regulators catch up."

The article goes on to say that xenon is likely not replicating low-oxygen environments, since its effects are longer lasting and cause a larger increase in EPO. I think that's got to cross the line.

So how does a runner obtain/purchase such a product? I'm sure you dont go to your local Walmart and get the right mix in a ready to use cannister for your average joe athlete.

Or maybe we dont want to know

Dude,

It is right there in the atmosphere. Make your own!

Tadpole wrote:

So how does a runner obtain/purchase such a product? I'm sure you dont go to your local Walmart and get the right mix in a ready to use cannister for your average joe athlete.

Or maybe we dont want to know

You can buy it online from a supplier.

also

Xenon is a trace gas in Earth's atmosphere, occurring at 87±1 parts per billion (nL/L), or approximately 1 part per 11.5 million, and is also found in gases emitted from some mineral springs.

So find a mineral spring and inhale.

random3 wrote:

I'm surprised I saw this in the economist before seeing it on this site:

http://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/21595890-obscure-gas-improves-athletes-performance-breathe-it

Anyone hear of distance runner's trying this?

We had that up awhile ago actually:

The Economist: Russian Athletes Using Xenon Gas To Stimulate EPO Production And Enhance Endurance Author claims that the use of Xenon gas has the government’s blessing and it isn’t yet specifically banned by WADA, but probably should be since they ban anything that artificially raises EPO levels.

I'm sure this isn't the last we'll hear about this.

Maybe they'll try radon next.

I'd take xenon if I was more educated on it's consequences (negative).

Why not? Runners who train at altitude have an advantage over sea level runners, so why not even the playing field?

I'd use these

http://amzn.to/1bF5IAu

There is some very good literature on mega/rather large doses of it a day. 3 grams maybe, I'll see if I can find the article. Boosted natural EPO production by a significant amount.

Soprano wrote: I'm sure this isn't the last we'll hear about this.

Get ready for the excuses from Xenon users. "It wasn't illegal when I was using it." "How was I supposed to know it would be banned?" "I didn't know it raised EPO, I thought it only helped me run faster, and allowed me to train more often."

damn, better change my name before I get accused of cheating

Well, just don't buy yourself an altitude tent, then start sleeping in it everyday while tweaking in some xenon gas.

No one ever asks Saladbar the tough questions. Obviously Flotrack won't do it because they want to keep their relationship with NOP.