In Defense of Galen

If Chris Solinsky ever showed up to a race wearing a black face mask, or any other color, he would lose credibility with me.

That's a perfect example of my point. People give Schumacher's group a free pass for doing the things they crucify Galen for, and only pay attention to superficial things like the allergy mask. The epitome of a double standard.

Jack, you have been sniffing at Galen's jockstrap for some time now. Ever take a break to smell the roses?

Lamest fanboy I-love-galen-post-of-the-day!

Enjoy being such a fanboy tool.

So many idiot runners basically emaciate themselves to gain 5 seconds in their 3k, give up job/internship opportunity, ruin their social lives, daydream constantly about running/training, etc. just to run their 16:00 5k, and galen gets shit for wearing a mask when it's his source of income.

haha. ok

I have no problem with fanboys. Aren't we all to some degree? I do have a problem with morons like Edith Massey calling other people fanboys. It just makes me cringe for some reason. So overused and so unoriginal.

I'm not a fanboy. I'm just someone who is privy to both sides of the equation and frustrated with the lack of objectiveness on this site. It's bad for the sport when athletes conduct smear campaigns against other athletes simply out of jealousy.

jack frost wrote:

..........because the "other" group at Nike are also all on thyroid medication, having been sent to visit Dr. Brown by their own coach...........

Maybe I just haven't been paying attention, but I haven't heard this before. Source?

jack frost wrote:

This should not be a surprise to anyone because during their days at Wisconsin, many from this group would spent weekend nights drunkenly prank calling Galen and morphing his name into a homophobic slur. The jealous y that by now has boiled over was already simmering back then. Remember when Chris Solinsky tried to put his arm in front of Galen to block him from passing him at the line at the 2007 Oregon Twilight? There was a reason behind this type of behavior and, sadly, not much has changed since then.

Wait...what?

Also forgot to address one important thing, which I was reminded of via a mindless Twitter rant by some stupid Oklahoma runner who claimed Chris Solinsky told him Mo Farah and Galen were injecting adrenaline before the 2012 OG 10k. This may be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. 1. Who brings needles and PEDs into the Olympic staging area? 2. What kind of idiot would inject PEDs in a public space? 3. How could Chris Solinsky be in the staging area before the race? 4. Why are all of Schumacher's athletes fostering this ridiculous rumor? It's so far beyond fantasy it would be hilarious if it didn't reflect the sad, petty nature of the politics of our sport.

jack frost wrote:

Also forgot to address one important thing, which I was reminded of via a mindless Twitter rant by some stupid Oklahoma runner who claimed Chris Solinsky told him Mo Farah and Galen were injecting adrenaline before the 2012 OG 10k. This may be the stupidest thing I have ever heard. 1. Who brings needles and PEDs into the Olympic staging area? 2. What kind of idiot would inject PEDs in a public space? 3. How could Chris Solinsky be in the staging area before the race? 4. Why are all of Schumacher's athletes fostering this ridiculous rumor? It's so far beyond fantasy it would be hilarious if it didn't reflect the sad, petty nature of the politics of our sport.

Because it is an epi-pen (adrenaline) used for asthma/allergies for which he would have a TUE. You would inject such a remedy just before heavy exertion. I don't know the nature of the claims by the Oklahoma runner about all this, by the sound of it I'm sure he was just trying to be satirical, but that could be the end result and possibility.

Also, if you're going to make claims, get your facts in line. Thyroid is not a one-off medication you use for a couple weeks to get your "levels balanced." It is an on-going hormonal replacement treatment used to replace hormones that the body is no longer synthesizing. Once a patient is on them, they are usually on them for good. Galen is still on them today, I am sure. Everybody has their own opinions as to whether that is ethical or not, I personally see nothing wrong with it. Just quit sounding so uninformed when arguing one way or the other.

Are you sure your thread should be titled "in defense of Galen"? "An attack on Shumaker's group and Nick Symmonds" would have been a lot more accurate. You've made a lot of unsubstantiated claims in your post.

Looky Here wrote:

Because it is an epi-pen (adrenaline) used for asthma/allergies for which he would have a TUE. You would inject such a remedy just before heavy exertion. I don't know the nature of the claims by the Oklahoma runner about all this, by the sound of it I'm sure he was just trying to be satirical, but that could be the end result and possibility.

I don't think you know what an epi-pen is and when it would be appropriate to use it. Hint: not before heavy exercise.

Mr. Obvious wrote:

I don't think you know what an epi-pen is and when it would be appropriate to use it. Hint: not before heavy exercise.

Same thing as the supposed injecting of adrenaline that was in the OP's post about the runner from Oklahoma, bud. Would you care to enlighten us on what an epi-pen is for us less intelligent folk?

My main point wasn't about Galen's purported use of thyroid, it was about its use by others than has gone unquestioned and ignored during a time frame when he has been publicly attacked by Virgin, Fam., Fleshman, et al.

It is possible to use thyroid medicine for a period and quit, depending on what medical condition you have. People who have an inactive thyroid may take it for life. Some take it for a time and then wean off it, or stop its use once their issues are resolved. Just ask Fam, one of the biggest accusers and yet also a former user of such medicine. He took it, and then stopped taking it. It does not shut down your thyroid permanently.

And finally, there is no rational for injecting an epi-pen right before a 10,000m.

My facts are in-line. That's why you will never see someone saying that Schumacher's athletes aren't on thyroid. I'm not uniformed. Every single thing I have said in these posts is true, whether it is about medical issues or the rumor mills and accusations.

Looky Here wrote:

Mr. Obvious wrote:

I don't think you know what an epi-pen is and when it would be appropriate to use it. Hint: not before heavy exercise.

Same thing as the supposed injecting of adrenaline that was in the OP's post about the runner from Oklahoma, bud. Would you care to enlighten us on what an epi-pen is for us less intelligent folk?

Yes, an epi-pen is adrenaline. Here are some facts. Epipens are used for severe allergic reactions causing anaphalaxis. It is not used in the routine treatment of allergies or asthma. Using an epipen gives a concentrated and suddent jolt of adrenaline that works as a vasoconstrictor, raising blood pressure and heart rate. Using an epipen in contraindication of its intended uses carries a significant risk of cardiac arrhythmia, stroke, heart attack, or death.

Epipens are prohibitied in competition for athletes by WADA. There is a retrospective/emergency TUE available but the implication that Rupp has some sort of standing TUE that would allow him to openly inject an epipen prior to a race is ludicrous. Epipens do not require use of a TUE not in the competition period.

So that is it for the downside. On the upside, well, injected adrenaline and other similar substances were investigated in 2008 and found to be, well, not very effective. You can read for yourself:

Honestly I have no idea is Rupp is doping or not but suggestions like this are just extremely silly.

People don't hate galen because they are jealous. The reason that galen is the most hated person in American sports is because he is a cheater, looks goofy, has zero personality, is spoiled and is pretty damn stupid.

how is he "a cheater"?

Not just now. For a long time.