Watching the post AR workout on Flotrack. After the 8:07 and 4 mile repeats (slowest was the first at 4:21 and fastest of those was 4:16) he ran the last mile in spikes for 4:01.6x...... INSANE
Total day- 7 miles in 29:25 I think they said
Watching the post AR workout on Flotrack. After the 8:07 and 4 mile repeats (slowest was the first at 4:21 and fastest of those was 4:16) he ran the last mile in spikes for 4:01.6x...... INSANE
Total day- 7 miles in 29:25 I think they said
Shit
I don't really get why Galen need to do a workout post-race, especially if it's a PR two-mile (and a record to boot). Didn't he run hard enough in the race? Now, maybe he has some incredible recovery capabilities, but I dunno.
3200 at vVO2 isn't all that much of a workout, although it will hinder any workout over the next couple of days.
Salazar is very smart to have his athletes do workouts post-race. There is still more to give that day, but the next would be a write-off.
adsfasfads wrote:
I don't really get why Galen need to do a workout post-race, especially if it's a PR two-mile (and a record to boot). Didn't he run hard enough in the race? Now, maybe he has some incredible recovery capabilities, but I dunno.
I can't recall, but I believe Salazar has said he feels there is some advantage to a workout just post race.
He has definitely said though that the race is a mere 8 min effort, and really in most any other workout you wouldn't do only 8 min of volume, so he does more stuff to make it a "full" training session. He tends to pair longer, aerobic stuff with a shorter race and vice versa
Sure, but Bill didn't have Al doing that??? So we've evolved that much that after running a distance faster than any American ever has before, pushing to the limits...then let's do a workout??? When he gets completely worn out or worse, injured, don't ask why.
LM wrote:
adsfasfads wrote:I don't really get why Galen need to do a workout post-race, especially if it's a PR two-mile (and a record to boot). Didn't he run hard enough in the race? Now, maybe he has some incredible recovery capabilities, but I dunno.
I can't recall, but I believe Salazar has said he feels there is some advantage to a workout just post race.
He has definitely said though that the race is a mere 8 min effort, and really in most any other workout you wouldn't do only 8 min of volume, so he does more stuff to make it a "full" training session. He tends to pair longer, aerobic stuff with a shorter race and vice versa
Rupp is in the zone right now. This may end up being his lifetime peak season, but it will be worth it.
This isn't a Salazar thing, at least not anymore... Virtually all post-collegiate athletes were doing a workout on the outdoor track after the UW meet last weekend. It makes sense to me. Make your hard days hard.
The point is to not to get injured. By doing it after the race he is able to get a full workload in instead of a few days later when the physical breakdown manifests itself
you're not worthy worm wrote:
Sure, but Bill didn't have Al doing that??? So we've evolved that much that after running a distance faster than any American ever has before, pushing to the limits...then let's do a workout???
Maybe you should be learning from them, not teaching them???
Sure, after running a distance faster than you've ever ran before, right? It's not like THAT isn't already going to break your body down enough (insert sarcasm). Doing a cool down is one thing, a hard workout, I don't think so. Like was already mentioned, wait till he gets hurt.
Hardloper wrote:
This isn't a Salazar thing, at least not anymore... Virtually all post-collegiate athletes were doing a workout on the outdoor track after the UW meet last weekend. It makes sense to me. Make your hard days hard.
Hardloper wrote:
This isn't a Salazar thing, at least not anymore... Virtually all post-collegiate athletes were doing a workout on the outdoor track after the UW meet last weekend. It makes sense to me. Make your hard days hard.
And yet everyone acts like it's something remarkable.
EVERY. TIME.
Hardloper wrote:
This isn't a Salazar thing, at least not anymore... Virtually all post-collegiate athletes were doing a workout on the outdoor track after the UW meet last weekend. It makes sense to me. Make your hard days hard.
It's at the high school level too. At least here in Iowa. Not executed perfectly by any means, but several coaches are implementing it.
Yeah, and U would know. Dumbo.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
And yet everyone acts like it's something remarkable.
EVERY. TIME.
NOP has been running workouts post-race since the beginning. He talked about the benefits at a coach's clinic
neopolitan wrote:
Sure, after running a distance faster than you've ever ran before, right?
It's not like THAT isn't already going to break your body down enough (insert sarcasm). Doing a cool down is one thing, a hard workout, I don't think so. Like was already mentioned, wait till he gets hurt.
Hardloper wrote:This isn't a Salazar thing, at least not anymore... Virtually all post-collegiate athletes were doing a workout on the outdoor track after the UW meet last weekend. It makes sense to me. Make your hard days hard.
Well, at least you have a sense of humor. It's been over TEN years now and Galen's injury count comes down to...
wait for it...
A single groin issue that took him out of a week. Something gives me the feeling AlSal has a pretty good idea what he is doing with his poster child.
Flo'da boy wrote:
The point is to not to get injured. By doing it after the race he is able to get a full workload in instead of a few days later when the physical breakdown manifests itself
That makes absolutely no sense. The damage is worse on the same day. It doesn't get worse a few days later. There is no 'manifesting itself later'.
you're not worthy worm wrote:
Sure, but Bill didn't have Al doing that??? So we've evolved that much that after running a distance faster than any American ever has before, pushing to the limits...then let's do a workout??? When he gets completely worn out or worse, injured, don't ask why.
LM wrote:I can't recall, but I believe Salazar has said he feels there is some advantage to a workout just post race.
He has definitely said though that the race is a mere 8 min effort, and really in most any other workout you wouldn't do only 8 min of volume, so he does more stuff to make it a "full" training session. He tends to pair longer, aerobic stuff with a shorter race and vice versa
He's been at this for ten years like I said above with nary an injury.
Galen did 8 minutes of hard running. You really think it is that unreasonable that he runs hard for another 15-20 more minutes to make it a similar size session to a normal training day?
When else in training would you do a workout totaling 2 miles of volume?
So we've evolved that much that after running a distance faster than any American ever has before, pushing to the limits...then let's do a workout???
If by "we" you mean human's/athletes...then no. If by "we" you mean our understanding of what can be done with athletes as far as coaching goes, then yes you are spot on.
Many other coaches do similar things with athletes. Post race workouts are somewhat common in the collegiate ranks. Canova does the equivalent with what he calls "special blocks" and they are two HARD workouts in one day. On in the AM, the other in the PM.
It's not magic, it's not that new, and it certainly doesn't seem to be dangerous.
Some people are going to get injured, but others are going
to move to a new level.
So if you can't do it, you have a lower probability of
getting gold or silver in the Olympics.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
Hardloper wrote:This isn't a Salazar thing, at least not anymore... Virtually all post-collegiate athletes were doing a workout on the outdoor track after the UW meet last weekend. It makes sense to me. Make your hard days hard.
And yet everyone acts like it's something remarkable.
EVERY. TIME.
You can count the programs on one finger who were doing hard track workouts like this after a 3k or 5k 5 years ago. Get over yourself f'tard.