Not to be "that guy" but the BU meet notes indicate that no high school aged athletes can compete...So should BU change their language, or should Mary Cain be barred from competing? A lawyer worth his salt could have a field day with this.
"Meet Notes: Entry fees are $15 per athlete per event, $20 per relay team. Make check payable to Boston University Track. The check dollar amount should not be in excess of the team's entry fee, as we will NOT provide cash back for checks that are larger than the team's entry fees. *High school athletes, including those in high school who wish to compete as open or unattached athletes, are not permitted to compete in the meets. Open or unattached athletes who are not in high school are permitted to compete in the meet."
BU meet notes clearly state that no HS's should compete at the upcoming meet
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Everyone overseeds the fvck out of themselves at these meets
A legit 8:50 3k guy who seeds himself at 8:50 won't get in
A 9:12 3k guy who seeds himself at 8:43 will get in
It's BS
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Do the words "open or unattached athletes" apply to Cain in this scenario?
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I believe entry standards like that are put in so that no illegal contact is made. With Cain being a pro she doesn't really count.
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hscoach1234555 wrote:
I believe entry standards like that are put in so that no illegal contact is made. With Cain being a pro she doesn't really count.
Reread it. No high aged athletes competing unattached or open may compete. Pretty clear. -
reading is fundamental. wrote:
hscoach1234555 wrote:
I believe entry standards like that are put in so that no illegal contact is made. With Cain being a pro she doesn't really count.
Reread it. No high aged athletes competing unattached or open may compete. Pretty clear.
It never says this. -
The rules clearly state that no high school aged athlete can compete at the BU meet. So what gives...Cain competes at the meet or BU changes their rules?
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My bad, No High School aged athletes. Don't want to accuse anyone of being high.
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What exactly would a lawyer do with this? What damages would be sought? You found an exception to a rule, big woop.
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You could also interpret it as saying that no high school athlete (meaning affiliated with a high school team) can run open or UNA. Mary Cain is not part of a high school team. The second sentence makes it more difficult to interpret.
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I'm assuming a rule in reference with prospective (recruitable) student athletes competing with NCAA athletes.
This rule does not apply to Cain because she signed both with an agent and a professional contract with NIKE. She no longer is in the catagory of a recruitable PSA. -
If I was a well-to-do parent, with a high performing HS child, and I was denied participation in the meet while Cain was allowed participation...then I would definitely sue the meet for inequality.
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"high school aged" does not specify any actual ages or birthdates, so who's to say what counts as a high school age.
plenty of kids graduated at 16/17 -
Well, attending HS as a student in good standing, would make you a "high school aged athlete"
Does BU have the integrity to follow the rule they have established? -
Cain is neither unattached or an open athlete. She Is competing for NIKE. She is also not paying an entry fee I would bet.
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reading is fundamental. wrote:
Well, attending HS as a student in good standing, would make you a "high school aged athlete"
Does BU have the integrity to follow the rule they have established?
All of you are misinterpreting the point. BU does not have sanctions from MA or National HS sanctions, so athletes affiliated with high schools could loose their eligibility to compete for their team and or state.
Cain is a pro, so does not affect her. The Mini meets in Dec and Jan at BU are open meets with no college team affiliations (ie. all are entered as unattached). College teams use the BU meets for NCAA requirement of number of competitions, so high school athletes mixed in causes a problem for both college teams and high school teams. Since BU does not have separate high school events (ie. Penn Relays), you would end up having high school athletes running with college athletes. There are both NCAA rules and National HS Federation rules against this.
Please stop making a big deal out of this. -
I'm That Guy... wrote:
Not to be "that guy"
Yes, you are "that guy." -
Cain is unattached? Did she used to have a conjoined twin and it recently got fixed?
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This is basically what has become known in the NCAA as "the Alan Webb rule." The NFHS jerks got their egos bruised because Webb kept running his best times in college and pro meets, not high school meets. So they pressured the NCAA to write rules so that high school athletes cannot compete in the same event as NCAA athletes.
Under the rules, you CAN have a meet where high school athletes compete, as long as high school athletes are not competing against NCAA athletes, i.e., you can have high school events in NCAA meets, and there are some institutions that do this.
Under the rules, I believe Cain would be treated as a professional and not subject to those rules. But if she is competing in a professional only event (as in the last meet) and not competing directly against high school athletes in NFHS events, those rules would also not apply. -
HaneousNope wrote:
Cain is neither unattached or an open athlete. She Is competing for NIKE. She is also not paying an entry fee I would bet.
This.
What lawyer would want to have a field day with this? Makes no sense.
