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Use it or lose it
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relentlessness wrote:
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This is legitimate. I would like to see a knowledgable discssion about maintain anaerobic power (particularly in VERY FAST contracting Type IIB fibers) in mid and long distance runners. No matter the distance, top end speed can become a limiting factor in performance.
Strides and 1 minute hill sprints at half marathon effort help me.
But that is still a long way from top end work. The only reason I bring this up is that I'm an Anatomy/Kinesiology major and research the subject quite extensively, but was just wanting some input from others. My reason for thinking this important is because I know that even at the marathon, your outright fastest contraction capacity will limit your power output, which determines speed.
I am sure you are right, but I find my limiting factor is endurance and not raw speed.
This is why every smart person does Hudson/Canova hill repeats. To preserve and enhance that power.
SMJO wrote:
This is why every smart person does Hudson/Canova hill repeats. To preserve and enhance that power.
What he said.
You need to recruit all your fibers and that can only be done at max effort, or so I understand.
After your 13:01 5k do repeat 800s under 2:00 then 400s in 53.
Good article.
In my opinion, top end speed is THE limiting factor. I don't even see a problem with distance runner types doing block work and short repeats. Of course, if they're going to pull a groin or hamstring the first time they pop out of the blocks, it isn't worth it.
Best advice I have had: every week, no matter what training phase you're in, you should touch your top speed at least once. Obviously, the top speed is going to be slower in build-up phases, and you need to be smart. But overall I think this is great advice for keeping speed.
Meant to say, you should touch your top speed at least *once per week*.
Fat Boy wrote:
In my opinion, top end speed is THE limiting factor.
Well, your opinion is wrong. Endurance is also a limiting factor. I'm not going to run a fast marathon by only doing sprints.
I never said any such thing about training. Every event eventually comes down to speed in its purest form. You can't set a world record in the marathon if your fastest time in the mile is 5:00. And you can't run a 4:00 mile if you can't run a 52 quarter or better and you can't run a 45 quarter if you can't run 100 meters in at least 10.50, all give or take a little. Some distance runners tend to forget about working the short end, not realizing that a small improvement there can yield a large improvement in the longer race.
msms wrote:
Fat Boy wrote:In my opinion, top end speed is THE limiting factor.
Well, your opinion is wrong. Endurance is also a limiting factor. I'm not going to run a fast marathon by only doing sprints.
I thought that it had been determined that you could never recruit all of your muscle fibers. Didn't they find in running that even when setting a world record it was found that some muscle fibers had never been used? And that led to that whole 'regulator' theory thing?
bump
Fast twitch fibers may become more fatigue resistant and oxidative, but that doesn't mean they have to lose their twitch characteristics. But, as others have pointed out; use it or lose it.
Jump squats, power cleans, sprints/plyometrics.
Done.