• Just don't get it
      • Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 11:52AM
      • Just don't get it
      • Just read about the lawsuit that a former male assistant coach at Iowa filed against the athletic department. The coach, Mike Scott who was working as an assistant at Iowa last year was passed over when the department made the track program hire a female. While I have no problem with female coaches working in the sport of track & field, and even think its important, the way that it was done was poor judgement. I just looked at the person that Iowa hired and she was a volunteer at Florida State for two years and has on her bio that she coached five Olympians and nine conference champions. At least she could have her bio actually reflect what she did at Florida State which is certainly not coaching five Olympians. Just another example of resume inflation and it does no one any good.
    • 12:57 pm
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 1:01PM - in reply to Just don't get it
      • 12:57 pm
      • It's not a union position so the administration isn't bound to hiring the most senior applicant. It happens very day that companies hire outside of the organization to get the person they want. That's capitalism. That's the system that we all signed on for.
    • coach d
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 1:15PM - in reply to Just don't get it
      • coach d
      • Doesn't have anything to do with resume inflation. It has to do with an administration that mandated that a female be hired. They went so far as to change the area of specialization for the coaching position from field events to distance running (which they already had coaches for) after the original job listing returned only male applicants.

        http://qctimes.com/news/state-...220c0.html
    • He Hate Me
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 2:02PM - in reply to coach d
      • He Hate Me
      • It's hardly surprising that something like this would happen at Iowa. The administrators are so out of touch with reality it's not even funny. Sadly, that's probably true at a lot of schools today.
    • Princess Ellen
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 2:09PM - in reply to He Hate Me
      • Princess Ellen
      • He Hate Me wrote:
        It's hardly surprising that something like this would happen at Iowa. The administrators are so out of touch with reality it's not even funny. Sadly, that's probably true at a lot of schools today.
        Care to elaborate? Pretty brash claim without any evidence.
    • obtuse
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 6:01PM - in reply to Just don't get it
      • obtuse
      • I dont get it either. He got passed over the first time by a more qualified male candidate. That candidate turned down the position so he got to coach on an interim basis (no gender discrimination there). When the job was posted again they hired a more qualified female coach. Unless he can show that she was substantially less qualified or he was promised a non interim position, I dont think he has a case. I'm sure the female attorney he hired will be happy to take his $900 expense +hourly fees to look into it.
    • obtuse
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 6:03PM - in reply to Just don't get it
      • obtuse
      • I dont get it either. He got passed over the first time by a more qualified male candidate. That candidate turned down the position so he got to coach on an interim basis (no gender discrimination there). When the job was posted again they hired a more qualified female coach. Unless he can show that she was substantially less qualified or he was promised a non interim position, I dont think he has a case. I'm sure the female attorney he hired will be happy to take his $900 expense +hourly fees to look into it.
    • Not kidding
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 7:08PM - in reply to obtuse
      • Not kidding
      • Meeting quotas for equity is not a new concept and is steadily pushing the limits of common sense. The problem could have been the unprofessional comment made by a head coach that tipped the scale for the rejected applicant that inspired him to pursue litigation. That being said, it's possible there are other reasons for overlooking someone who was already in the program for a couple years. He had a chance to prove himself but I suspect that in a place like Iowa with a female associate AD in an incredibly liberal university town rife with lawyers, he's right but won't be able to pull it off legally. The cards are stacked against him no matter how qualified he is. As for the coaching staff, nice people but they should never have anything to say about something they have no control over. Their recommendations are only considered but not necessarily heavily weighed like they might be with a more successful program that brings positive attention to the institution. Winning is their bargaining chip which they don't have. Besides, football and basketball with wrestling close behind are the only sports that matter at Iowa.
    • Not kidding
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 7:14PM - in reply to Not kidding
      • Not kidding
      • Besides, they should have a female coach for a combined program. Again, common sense. 5-1 still seems a little out of balance. Maybe more female athletes should be encouraged to pursue coaching as a career.
    • obtuse
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/22/2013 7:34PM - in reply to Not kidding
      • obtuse
      • Yep, im sure the state atty will point out the alleged comments were by non decision maker. That said, the supreme court in Fisher v. UT was in favor of affirmative action policy in college admissions.
    • He Hate Me
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/23/2013 12:30AM - in reply to Princess Ellen
      • He Hate Me
      • Princess Ellen wrote:
        He Hate Me wrote:
        It's hardly surprising that something like this would happen at Iowa. The administrators are so out of touch with reality it's not even funny. Sadly, that's probably true at a lot of schools today.
        Care to elaborate? Pretty brash claim without any evidence.
        Honestly, the specifics of this case aren't even central to my point. The guy could be right or wrong that he got passed over for a less qualified candidate purely because of a perceived need for diversity. But as someone that went to Iowa it was pretty obvious that a lot of attention was paid to political correctness, whether or not it was the best thing for the university. This was pretty apparent in the academic sphere so I would not be surprised at all to see it show itself in athletics.
    • coach d
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/23/2013 12:50AM - in reply to He Hate Me
      • coach d
      • I think the "smoking gun" here is that after they couldn't/didn't get a qualified female candidate the first time they posted the position, they changed the area of specialization for the hire, even though they already had qualified distance coaches. This clearly shows intent to discriminate, and I don't see how an attorney can argue otherwise.
    • discus thrower
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/23/2013 9:14AM - in reply to smallfry
      • discus thrower
      • This happens all over the place. These schools do keep track of how many females and minorities that are hired. I was at a school where they hired a black female strength coach over some great candidates and I was told by the head strength coach that he had no say in the matter. They killed two birds with one stone. Black and female.
    • obtuse
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/23/2013 9:46AM - in reply to coach d
      • obtuse
      • That's not a smoking gun, that's just some mud in the water. If they were not doing well with an all male staff for a combined program, what's wrong with hiring a qualified candidate who happens to be female if that's what they want to do? This coach sounds like a cry baby boo hoo a girl beat him. He has no damages, he has a coaching job at one of the thousands of schools that prefers white male candidates. He should have been more qualified, like that man they hired the first go round. He should have volunteered with a winning program like the woman they hired in the other round. If the job description favored male candidates and was discriminatory towards women, was precluding them from hire, they have every right to abide by EEO law and change it.
    • fascinating
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/23/2013 11:05AM - in reply to obtuse
      • fascinating
      • obtuse - I don't think you have this correct. It is difficult to discern without looking at the entire record whether the school discriminated on the basis of gender. If they did, and it can be proven, then the school violated the law. EEO law doesn't permit discrimination based on gender. It does require institutions not to discriminate, and meet diversity goals in hiring.

        And I don't understand the notion you raise about the job description favoring men. Maybe it did, or maybe it didn't. But you don't know what it stated. Moreover, merely having a surplus of men apply does not automatically mean that the description was discriminatory.

        From an optical standpoint, the school seems to have done this poorly. If they appear as if they going to select and select until they obtained the right gender, well, operating towards an unstated quota will not help them. But they have a chance to defend their position in court, so we will see.
    • I see it differently
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/23/2013 11:06AM - in reply to obtuse
      • I see it differently
      • The OP brought up a good point that no one is discussing. The female coach Iowa hired - is she really qualified?

        We all know she did not "coach" Olympians and champions, etc.

        So the administrative people that reviewed her resume - did they base their decision to hire her on her false resume?

        I think that is the real question. I have no problem with any team hiring a female candidate. But would another female have been "more" qualified if not for the resume falsification?
    • Impending Choke
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/23/2013 11:53AM - in reply to Just don't get it
      • Impending Choke
      • Based on what I've heard from athletes at Iowa and on their results in both track and xc, they should just clean house and dismiss the entire staff and then they can even out the male:female ratio. That athletic program is just a mess between their terrible track/xc and their football program. I imagine it filters down into a lot of other sports too.
    • gahuga
    • integrity is important
      • RE: Track Lawsuit at Iowa 12/23/2013 12:42PM - in reply to I see it differently
      • integrity is important
      • I see it differently wrote:
        The OP brought up a good point that no one is discussing. The female coach Iowa hired - is she really qualified?

        We all know she did not "coach" Olympians and champions, etc.

        So the administrative people that reviewed her resume - did they base their decision to hire her on her false resume?

        I think that is the real question. I have no problem with any team hiring a female candidate. But would another female have been "more" qualified if not for the resume falsification?
        I wouldn't hire someone who lies on their resume. Why these types of people continue to get hired is beyond me.