Kenyans, help us out: Why would David Rudisha pay another police officer

could very well be bribery as is common in Kenya

could also be a simple gift to a friend, Kenyans with alot money are usually not stingy at all with it, so if the guy is one of Rudishas best friends this wouldn't be a big deal.

letsrun homeboy wrote:

could also be a simple gift to a friend, Kenyans with alot money are usually not stingy at all with it, so if the guy is one of Rudishas best friends this wouldn't be a big deal.

But then why would the authorities be questioning the guy about it?

Top cops are being vetted to see if they are fit to serve. These cop's bank account had questionable transactions compared to his salary.

Jambonewspot:

"Jonathan Koskei, in charge of the Directorate of Reforms, received the money through a swift money transfer from Rudisha on October 26 2001.

Rudisha is a junior police officer.

Koskei, who has been provincial police officer in Western, Nairobi and North Eastern Provinces, was also questioned on huge cash and cheque deposits in his accounts between 2001 and 2012 amounting to Sh 15.5 million.

Koskei, who is in charge of the Kenya Police athletics team, said Rudisha lent him the money and also wanted to buy some farm machinery from him.

He said he returned the money to Rudisha by cheque."

Let's keep in mind that the amount involved is equivalent to about 3x the average police salary (not sure what Rudisha gets).

As I understand, policeman is one of the few jobs in Eldoret that provides reliable income.

I think this is bribery. Rudisha is getting paid as a police officer but he is not performing his duties due to his running, the officer in charge of athletics has the power to deploy you, Rudisha did not want to be deployed hence paying the guy the monies.

'PS. And Rudisha is a police officer why?'

I'm surprised you don't know this

A lot of Kenyans and Ethiopians are employed by police, army, prison services etc but don't do any duties. They represent their force in athletics competitions. Often they would be more at the level of local champions and are not paid much money. I imagine as Rudisha progressed they are hardly going to drop him

I knew some Ethiopians years ago who came to the UK for several months, all ran for the prison service but as far as I know they were full time athletes. One married Gete Wami later. Decades ago, even UK and I would have thought US athletes were left to pretty much train as a pro. The Soviet and GDR system did this to an even greater extent

As for the money no idea maybe he worked for him or helped him with some paperwork or whatever. In a lot of countries everything from passports for relatives to university entry or getting a job is done on bribes -especially if you need it quickly. Don't know about that in Kenya- it could be anything

Runthemhillsboy wrote:

I think this is bribery. Rudisha is getting paid as a police officer but he is not performing his duties due to his running, the officer in charge of athletics has the power to deploy you, Rudisha did not want to be deployed hence paying the guy the monies.

It just as easy could be extortion - that's why I asked Kenyans with knowledge to post. They probably are all asleep right now.

I looked up your IP and you are far from Kenya as you're on the West Coast.

They don't call it extortion in Kenya; it's just everyday

reality.

Greasing the wheels of progress.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

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I knew some Ethiopians years ago who came to the UK for several months, all ran for the prison service but as far as I know they were full time athletes. One married Gete Wami later. Decades ago, even UK and I would have thought US athletes were left to pretty much train as a pro. The Soviet and GDR system did this to an even greater extent

Um, ever heard of Dan Brown?

2001, Rudisha was 12 or 13. He had that kind of money then?

ukathleticscoach wrote:

'PS. And Rudisha is a police officer why?'

I'm surprised you don't know this

A lot of Kenyans and Ethiopians are employed by police, army, prison services etc but don't do any duties. They represent their force in athletics competitions. Often they would be more at the level of local champions and are not paid much money. I imagine as Rudisha progressed they are hardly going to drop him

As for the money no idea maybe he worked for him or helped him with some paperwork or whatever. In a lot of countries everything from passports for relatives to university entry or getting a job is done on bribes -especially if you need it quickly. Don't know about that in Kenya- it could be anything

Yup. Getting 'signed' to run for Police, Prisons, Posta etc is basically a running scholarship without the school. You collect a tidy salary, maybe get a place to live, probably do the basic training and could potentially (but not likely) be called on to work (and you will have a decent job if you stop running). In return you compete for the glory of your branch of the civil service at provincial and national track/cross events.

Part of the idea is that it enhances the attractiveness of these employers to hardworking Kenyans. (Who wouldn't want to be even remotely Rudisha's colleague in Kenya right now?)

Agreed with UK Coach that there are about 1,000 reasons someone might bribe another in Kenya. Getting a permit to build a house or open a business, getting a driver's license, getting criminal charges lifted, getting your cousin into university, just to name a few. It could be anything. There is talk of cracking down but everyone knows that greased palms make things happen in Kenya (as in many places).

Rudisha is a cop in the same way that Catherine Ndereba is a prison guard in that he runs for the Kenya Police team, whereas Ndereba ran for Kenya Prisons.

Shocked that rojo didn't know how this stuff worked.

yeah and GW501516 never existed ,

and why never tested retrospectively .

as in 2012 olympic final would of gotten

afew .

where have the 2nd and 3rd place guys disappered to.

oh well still has epo and igf-1 lr3 .

Runthemhillsboy wrote:

I think this is bribery. Rudisha is getting paid as a police officer but he is not performing his duties due to his running, the officer in charge of athletics has the power to deploy you, Rudisha did not want to be deployed hence paying the guy the monies.

And that's libel. Be careful, I'm sure Kenyans read this board.

Many countries use university sport teams or professional teams to nurture athletic/sport talent. In Kenya, army/police/prison are the major avenues by which athletic talents are developed. You may not know it but many of the Kenyan runners you see are affiliated with one of these organizations.

With that said, I have no idea why Rudisha would pay another officer this amount of money. One thing you have to realize is that a lot of things are conducted informally in Kenya and this may have been an absolutely harmless transaction between two individuals. On the other hand, corruption is also prevalent at all levels of society and it is entirely possible that senior officers can extort from juniors and similarly, juniors (or any other individual) can easily bribe authority for whatever benefit. In other words, it is hard to know what is going on here.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

A lot of Kenyans and Ethiopians are employed by police, army, prison services etc but don't do any duties. They represent their force in athletics competitions.

Which is why they're so good compared to the united states. In the american developmental league, the NCAA, they don't pay you, you pay them.

Lasse Viren was a full time police officer in Finland