I eat moderately more healthy than average, will improving diet really help my running?

fasten your safety belts wrote:

Translation: your advice is worthless and dangerous.

No, there is no translation. You just can't admit that you tried to mock me and were totally wrong. We were talking about calorie sources not micro nutrient sources. Your sarcastic attack was completely irrelevant.

Conundrum wrote:

Wrongo,

You should do some research regarding nutrition. All fats are certainly not created equal. Now you must know the difference between polyunsaturated and saturated fat. Do some research on healthy fats and animal fats.

As far as carb go, research the hypoglycemic index and you will learn much about the difference between complex and simple carbs. You will also learn the effect simple carbs have on cravings.

Also salt and fat together does trigger a crave response in people. Google that too.

And next time don't be so arrogant when you really are not knowlegable in basic nutrition yourself.

I know all about basic nutrition. You have no idea what you're talking about. Little of what you said has anything to do with what I said.

I never said all fats were equal. I said fats aren't bad for you. So what are you talking about?

I never said anything about the hypoglycemic index. So what are you talking about? I said that complex carbs can turn to blood sugar faster than simple carbs.

I never said that salt and fat doesn't trigger cravings.

Was there anything in your post that had ANYTHING to do with my post? No.

Roughly two seconds per pound per mile.

5-10

150 pounds

Take your time getting there. A pound a week is fine.

wrongo wrote:

Unquiring Minds wrote:

You are displaying the type of ignorance that I take to bank every time I race guys that have put on 15-25 lbs since college because they have no control over the cravings that industrially produced foods are designed to promote. The OP himself senses his problem by listing starchy foods as his late-night craving.

No, YOU are the one displaying the ignorance. If the OP is only eating 100 calories worth of crackers and bread per day, then there is no way that crackers and bread are responsible for his weight problems. It's simple math.

It's not necessarily simple math. Everybody is a little different, but I eliminated gluten and dairy (as much as I could -- still finding sneaky uses of these in unexpected places) and dropped 10 lb. I do not have a diagnosed food allergy. I just eliminated them because they make me feel bloated sometimes. I am eating a lot, but the food I eat now is digested better. The longer I go without them, the bigger difference I can see in how much energy I get from food instead of using to digest it. This is the first time I have been able to lose weight while training a lot, and it is solely related to what I am eating, not how much.

The nutrition changes are part of larger training commitments, so all things are not equal. I am getting faster and I'm sure some of it has to do with not lugging around an extra 10 lb. I'm going to keep refining my nutrition to get rid of the few grains I do still eat and to winnow down the processed foods I consume to see if I can keep improving. It's not easy, but neither is waking up at 5 AM to run in sub-freezing weather. Eliminating those things also makes me feel better all the time, not just when running. Worth it to tweak whatever you are eating to see what helps you and what hurts you. Your issues might not be grains and dairy, if you have any issues.

Your previous posts certainly seem to indicate that you know nothing about nutrition. Your advocating a processed diet (aka as SAD) as healthy. That tells me you are quite ignorant when it comes to understanding modern nutrition.

Some estimate the for every pound lost, you gain 2 seconds a mile. However, diet affects running in a variety of ways, not only weight/time. Going vegan (yes, difficult) will enable you to recover more quickly as well as to lose weight. Vegan: no meat, fish, dairy. Try it, perhaps by cutting out meat first and then seeing how you feel. I was skeptical at first, but would never go back. Being leaner and lighter will not only produce a direct time benefit; it will also, indirectly, allow you to train more and with greater quality. It will also make you less injury-prone. If you are worried about ridicule, don't tell people you are doing it; I never use the "v" word. I just say plant-based. Veganism isn't a cult; it is about health and potentially about fitness. Read Scott Jurek's Eat & Run or anything by Dean Ornish, Caldwell Esselstyn and his son Rip Esselstyn. Caldwell got gold in rowing many years ago, and Rip is a serious triathlete. And, of course, Jurek is a legend. My wife, a tennis player, dropped nearly 100 cholesterol points in three months of a flexible veganism; she has milk in her coffee. And, of course, she lost weight. Vegans are always thin.

Now I can't figure if wrongo is a troll as you suggested before or if he is truly that ignorant but doesn't realize it.Some of his pearls of wisdom:"Fats are not bad" (No mention of difference between healthy fats and artery clogging saturated fats.)"Simple carbs can turn to sugar as fast as complex carbs" (Never heard of the gylcemic index and its effects)And his statement that the source of calories doesn't matter.Maybe you are right and he was a troll. I hope so or else it would be just SAD (no pun intended)!

Middle Distance Coach wrote:

wrongo wrote:

I know all about basic nutrition. You have no idea what you're talking about. Little of what you said has anything to do with what I said.

I never said all fats were equal. I said fats aren't bad for you. So what are you talking about?

I never said anything about the hypoglycemic index. So what are you talking about? I said that complex carbs can turn to blood sugar faster than simple carbs.

I never said that salt and fat doesn't trigger cravings.

Was there anything in your post that had ANYTHING to do with my post? No.

Your previous posts certainly seem to indicate that you know nothing about nutrition. Your advocating a processed diet (aka as SAD) as healthy. That tells me you are quite ignorant when it comes to understanding modern nutrition.

wrongo wrote:

fasten your safety belts wrote:

Translation: your advice is worthless and dangerous.

No, there is no translation. You just can't admit that you tried to mock me and were totally wrong. We were talking about calorie sources not micro nutrient sources. Your

sarcastic attack was completely irrelevant.

Dude, the guy you replied to included the words "healthy food". Maybe YOU weren't talking about micro nutrient sources, but that's foolish, and I bet he was considering it. Therefore your statement of "we" is incorrect. Additionally, the OP had already stated that weight loss (beyond maybe 5 pounds) wasn't his interest. So.... what else does the topic of "eat moderately more healthy..." leave you?

Only an idiot would start arguing about what is healthy or not and decide to exclude consideration of vitamins and minerals.

Sorry, can't admit something that's not true.... and I have this sick need to mock nonsense. And, here we are.