• divide and fail
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:31PM - in reply to
      • divide and fail
      • 1 dominant event wrote:
        NXN wins!!
        This is EXACTLY why what nike has done is inexcusable.

        It's like having two watches on. You never really know what the correct time is.
    • willardscott
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:34PM - in reply to
      • willardscott
      • HA. Troll.

        They went out in 4:53/9:53. The top two guys probably went 4:40 for the last mile (including that giant hill).

        Awesome finish too.

        Once again, Footlocker comes out on top for the boys. The girls will be back now that Baxter/Cain are gone.
    • ElbowMaster
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:39PM - in reply to willardscott
      • ElbowMaster
      • Ummmm. Who cares which race is better? I will take two GREAT races to one any day!
    • ronnie clarkie
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:42PM - in reply to willardscott
      • ronnie clarkie
      • willardscott wrote:
        HA. Troll.

        They went out in 4:53/9:53. The top two guys probably went 4:40 for the last mile (including that giant hill).

        Awesome finish too.

        Once again, Footlocker comes out on top for the boys. The girls will be back now that Baxter/Cain are gone.
        What giant hill?
    • Puhleez!
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:42PM - in reply to ElbowMaster
      • Puhleez!
      • ElbowMaster wrote:
        I will take two GREAT races to one any day!
        This.
    • willardscott
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:44PM - in reply to ronnie clarkie
      • willardscott
      • The giant hill where I take your mom.

        Go away.



        ronnie clarkie wrote:
        willardscott wrote:
        HA. Troll.

        They went out in 4:53/9:53. The top two guys probably went 4:40 for the last mile (including that giant hill).

        Awesome finish too.

        Once again, Footlocker comes out on top for the boys. The girls will be back now that Baxter/Cain are gone.
        What giant hill?
    • one challenged poster
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:50PM - in reply to
      • one challenged poster
      • 1 dominant event wrote:
        NXN wins!!
        The boys' winning time was faster than the winning time in 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2009.

        The girls' winning time was faster than the winning time in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2012.

        So you were close.
    • Runnerlogic101
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:55PM - in reply to
      • Runnerlogic101
      • Considering the amount of elite juniors at FL this year, it will be even more competitive next year. Not that it was this year because of the weak class of 2014. So next year FL>>>>>>>>>>NXN. At least for boys
    • ElbowMaster
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:59PM - in reply to
      • ElbowMaster
      • slow slow slowest wrote:
        Boys times not much better, have been years with entire field under 16...

        Lol, a 17:30 and a DNF
        Who really cares about the last 2 times???? Maybe they rolled an ankle or something? The top 2 times are FAST. Especially after being so tactical at the beginning.
    • Dan Moriarity
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 12:59PM - in reply to
      • Dan Moriarity
      • Who cares about times in an x-c race? The goal is to win the race.
    • Hank Moody
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 1:02PM - in reply to Runnerlogic101
      • Hank Moody
      • Runnerlogic101 wrote:
        Considering the amount of elite juniors at FL this year, it will be even more competitive next year. Not that it was this year because of the weak class of 2014. So next year FL>>>>>>>>>>NXN. At least for boys
        You had a good point about the juniors but then you made a bad point in assuming they will for sure be at this meet again.

        For example Maton's team was only regionally good this year, next year they are a probable NTN team. No telling who will be where next fall.

        I know the top three were all juniors but Maton, especially, still looks 12. I think he has A LOT of potential.
    • George Atlas
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 1:02PM - in reply to
      • George Atlas
      • footlocker was over in 2008. wrote:
        Overall both fields were the SLOWEST in Footlocker history. What a field of scrubs.

        one challenged poster wrote:
        1 dominant event wrote:
        NXN wins!!
        The boys' winning time was faster than the winning time in 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2009.

        The girls' winning time was faster than the winning time in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008 and 2012.

        So you were close.
        The race was slow. 4:50 and 9:53. Most of those guys probably went out faster in their conference meets. The Midwest Regional is a harder course than Balboa Park and most of those runners ran a lot faster there than today.

        Still its surprising that the course record never gets challenged every single year. Cheserek could have gone out in 4:30 and 9:20 and ran under 14:30 on that course no problem. I guess its more tactical due to the better depth in high school running versus 20-30 years ago.

        The top two finishers today will probably run 4:05 and sub 8:50 (as high school juniors). The slow time today has no relation to the quality of the field.
    • all about the win today
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 1:13PM - in reply to George Atlas
      • all about the win today
      • George Atlas wrote:

        The top two finishers today will probably run 4:05 and sub 8:50 (as high school juniors). The slow time today has no relation to the quality of the field.
        They went through the half in 2:20 and the mile in 4:53 with the whole field within a few seconds. It was definitely a tactical race. The kid leading early finished 50 seconds behind the winner. All the smart runners know it is a big mistake to lead early unless you are far better than the other runners.
    • trirunner96
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 1:24PM - in reply to all about the win today
      • trirunner96
      • 12 juniors on the boy's side, not to mention the top 3 being juniors, means that this field just has a weaker senior class than we've seen in the past.

        Assuming at least 8 of the juniors return next year, the race will be great. They all look to have a ton of potential. I expect the top 3 to all return next year, because, I mean come on, who doesn't return to footlocker after finishing in the top 3 your junior year.

        As for the slow times, this was a very tactical race on the boy's side. 4:50 and 9:53 looked very controlled for the leaders, and they then went very hard over the last mile. Last mile was probably faster than Cheserek's or Verzbicas' last miles when they won during the past 4 years.

        And on the girl's side, none of the big 3 were there (Baxter, Efraimson, Cranny), but the field was still strong. Taylor Werner was 5th at NXN last weekend, but she was only 9th today.
    • Ho Hum
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 1:25PM - in reply to
      • Ho Hum
      • I wonder who's behind these anti-FL posts: Nike or just a mentally challenged individual? I hope you realize that changing your name a bunch of times doesn't fool anyone when you still write like a crazy person.
    • Runnerlogic101
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 1:29PM - in reply to Hank Moody
      • Runnerlogic101
      • Austin Tamagno said he's doing FL. His reason was FL is more prestigious and he doesn't like the weather. Weather will play a big part in others' choices as well
    • Uh get a clue?
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 1:31PM - in reply to
      • Uh get a clue?
      • Scrubs?
        It was tactical
        Top 3 juniors
    • Runnerlogic101
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 1:59PM - in reply to
      • Runnerlogic101
      • I agree. Definitely a weak year for the seniors.
        Above all, Grant Fisher is the real deal. 3:50 1500m as a soph, undefeated as a junior... This kid who has Canadian family according to his interview, might be the best in the country. Better than haney or cerake... Who knows
    • troglodyte
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 2:33PM - in reply to Ho Hum
      • troglodyte
      • Ho Hum wrote:
        I wonder who's behind these anti-FL posts: Nike or just a mentally challenged individual? I hope you realize that changing your name a bunch of times doesn't fool anyone when you still write like a crazy person.
        Agreed. Obviously a corporate flack with zero appreciation of the sport.
    • Someillinoisguy
      • RE: SLOWEST FOOTLOCKER TIMES IN 15 YEARS. FOOTLOCKER RIP. 12/14/2013 2:43PM - in reply to troglodyte
      • Someillinoisguy
      • troglodyte wrote:
        Ho Hum wrote:
        I wonder who's behind these anti-FL posts: Nike or just a mentally challenged individual? I hope you realize that changing your name a bunch of times doesn't fool anyone when you still write like a crazy person.
        Agreed. Obviously a corporate flack with zero appreciation of the sport.
        Someone who doesn't know the tradition behind the sport, and thinks progress is the answer when really tradition is the best bet