What do you think the 5k world record would be if you were only allowed to train 10 miles a week? Let's say you couldn't work out for a year beforehand so you don't have any base.
What do you think the 5k world record would be if you were only allowed to train 10 miles a week? Let's say you couldn't work out for a year beforehand so you don't have any base.
14:40
10 Miles a Week wrote:
What do you think the 5k world record would be if you were only allowed to train 10 miles a week? Let's say you couldn't work out for a year beforehand so you don't have any base.
Lagat could go sub-14 on 10 mpw. 13:55.
Sunday 5K high tempo effort
Monday 2 hr bike
Tuesday 5K race effort
wednesday 2 hr. eliptical + lifting/core
Thursday 2 hr. bike
Friday 5K race effort
Saturday 2 hr. eliptical + lifting/core
13:55 Lagat
I shudder to think what distance running would be like if everyone ran low mileage.
10 Miles a Week wrote:
What do you think the 5k world record would be if you were only allowed to train 10 miles a week? Let's say you couldn't work out for a year beforehand so you don't have any base.
could i walk up stairs to go to bed? run to cross a street or to catch a bus? walk my dog? Play a pick-up game of basketball? Could I ride my bicycle more than 10 miles?
Live not on eviL wrote:
10 Miles a Week wrote:What do you think the 5k world record would be if you were only allowed to train 10 miles a week? Let's say you couldn't work out for a year beforehand so you don't have any base.
Lagat could go sub-14 on 10 mpw. 13:55.
this seems about right. I think a kenyan or ethiopian would be in the 13:40s though. Assuming they could cross train and do strength work, not just 10 mpw, it woudl be in the 13:10s. The fact is those born in the great rift valley are supremely talented and even working your life, training as hard as you can, you won't beat the times some of them could run at the age of 12.
I think you underestimate the power of quality work sustained over years. With that kind of regimen of compounded speed-work and cross training, any great runner could run 13 flat.The gating issue would be injuries. Many great runners cannot remain uninjured under the constant stress of speedwork.GG
fghsgh wrote:
Sunday 5K high tempo effort
Monday 2 hr bike
Tuesday 5K race effort
wednesday 2 hr. eliptical + lifting/core
Thursday 2 hr. bike
Friday 5K race effort
Saturday 2 hr. eliptical + lifting/core
13:55 Lagat
ggilder wrote:
I think you underestimate the power of quality work sustained over years. With that kind of regimen of compounded speed-work and cross training, any great runner could run 13 flat.
The gating issue would be injuries. Many great runners cannot remain uninjured under the constant stress of speedwork.
GG
fghsgh wrote:
Sunday 5K high tempo effort
Monday 2 hr bike
Tuesday 5K race effort
wednesday 2 hr. eliptical + lifting/core
Thursday 2 hr. bike
Friday 5K race effort
Saturday 2 hr. eliptical + lifting/core
13:55 Lagat
If you are going to count cross training, the cross country skiers could do that. Ben True could probably break 14 off of 10 miles a week of running, interspersed with 2 hr XC ski sessions.
Debate away, but there is no doubt that the last low mileage 5000m WR holder was Chris Chataway.
Never more than 25 miles a week in his life. Smoked. And ran 13:51.6 WR at age 23.
Sixty years later, four of the top five finishers in the 2013 NCAA XC champs race have never broken 13:50.
13:45 comes to mind for me. Maybe quicker for an El G type.
This question needs more clarification. Are we talking about one season of 10 mpw? 1 year of 10 mpw? Or a lifetime of 10 mpw? It makes a big difference
sedentary life until 24 y old, then 3 months of 10mpw, no cross training, no running 12 miles everyday to school
15:00? I think it would be hard to go faster with almost no training, 15 is 86% of the WR, maybe 90% of the wr? 14:20?
johjohjhjo wrote:sedentary life until 24 y old, then 3 months of 10mpw, no cross training, no running 12 miles everyday to school
In that case, it is a silly hypothetical, since it would be impossible to enforce the terms outside a penitentiary.
More intriguing is the issue of whether speedwork can make up for the absence of a long distance base--whether quality work can substitute for quantity, as Bill McCurdy, my venerable Harvard coach used to insist. The caveat was that many runners cannot endure such a regimen without injuring themselves.
However, the new cross training technologies may make it easier than it was in McCurdy's day.
And I completely agree with the poster who cited the effectiveness of cross country skiing and speculated on the possibility that a runner-skier such as Ben True could eventually get close to 13 minutes on such a regime.
GG
johjohjhjo wrote:
sedentary life until 24 y old, then 3 months of 10mpw
35:00+
~13:25
anyone up for guessing what the marathon record would be? (let's assume the marathon race itself doesn't count)
2:17:15?
johjohjhjo wrote:
sedentary life until 24 y old, then 3 months of 10mpw, no cross training, no running 12 miles everyday to school
15:00? I think it would be hard to go faster with almost no training, 15 is 86% of the WR, maybe 90% of the wr? 14:20?
Does Wii fit count as sedentary
johjohjhjo wrote:
14:40
theres probably quite a few guys in East Africa right now who could run that time or close to it with no real training/mileage whatsoever
see: Dennis Kimetto
Seriously, don't you have anything better to occupy you than crap like this?
What would be the most anyone could bench press if they had to go without food for 3 days beforehand ??? Who the fvck cares.
Whatever Doug Padilla's PR is.