Ryun's incredible 3'38.2 in '67 - Cordner Nelson account

He was forced to run an additional 2.7 meters

(302.7/300)^1.3837 ===> 3:22.5 1500 if evenly paced.

to negate any subsequent drivel

ryun worth 3:24 and 1:39

on synthetic 70s track

endurance lasted to maybe 2k

speed trained athlete

would've destroyed rudy, coe, elg

"Heroically obtained"? It was guarded by a ring of fire and snapping, snarling German Shepherds?

Wtf is wrong with you?

Well, the delay was that Norpoth grabbed Ryun's shorts and held on until Ryun said "Uncle," but this also gave Ryun a surge of adrenaline as he bolted free from Norpoth's grasp.

having the determination to write to a lotta german broadcasters to find out which one televised the meet, waiting to find out which one did, then ask them to quote a price to convert the tv broadcast to dvd & then paying for it, yes, i'd call it

heroic

all this from a guy who didn't rate ryun or any other yank runners, in fact dismissed yank runners, but was eventually "forced" to get the dvd out of curiousity & then having the objectivity to state :

Ryun's performance definitely was Beamonesque - at least much better than what I have expected he was capable of...

For me it puts all the other performances from the all-time greats of the last decades in a new context...

I don't know if any runner in history could have beaten Ryun on this day...

ventolin^3 wrote:

I don't know if any runner in history could have beaten Ryun on this day...

El G takes it out at 53 (with a fellow countryman pacer of course), comes through 800 in 1:49, holds on to 3:26/3:27? i don't think ryun could hang

Short track.

What were the best times ever run by Tummler and Norpoth?

norpoth smashed the 2k wr down from 5'01.2 to 4'57.8

on dirt...

think that more as a

4'52+ on '70s synthetic

just behind walker/cram's later wrs...

ventolin^3 wrote:

think that more as a

4'52+ on '70s synthetic

Prove this. Where do you get these 5 seconds from?

skkd wrote:Prove this. Where do you get these 5 seconds from?

beg/borrow/steal a 5 bucks casio

it's

1s/lap

for dirt -> '70s synthetic

ventolin^3 wrote:

having the determination to write to a lotta german broadcasters to find out which one televised the meet, waiting to find out which one did, then ask them to quote a price to convert the tv broadcast to dvd & then paying for it, yes, i'd call it

heroic

all this from a guy who didn't rate ryun or any other yank runners, in fact dismissed yank runners, but was eventually "forced" to get the dvd out of curiousity & then having the objectivity to state :

Ryun's performance definitely was Beamonesque - at least much better than what I have expected he was capable of...

For me it puts all the other performances from the all-time greats of the last decades in a new context...

I don't know if any runner in history could have beaten Ryun on this day...

What you also conveniently fail to mention is that the author of those comments also said,

"To me, this race is unique and I don't think that all the other greats could have run it in THIS way. But for sure this doesn't mean some others could not have beaten Ryun on this day. We just don't know what he could have done against sub 3:30 runners. Or against a 1:46,9 last 800 in faster overall pace. And so on. Would really like to see Ovett against Ryun in this sort of race."

Ventolin also fails to mention that Ryun's last 800m was 1:50.5, so the 3rd lap was a fairly pedestrian 60.0 sec flat.

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Do you realize you are trying to rationalize with a paranoid schizophrenic?

I take issue with those symptoms. Tons of people have them. It generally means that one is not a cordial person, but being condescending, argumentative, cold, and angry is common for about half the country.

someone had to do it. wrote:

to negate any subsequent drivel

ryun worth 3:24 and 1:39

on synthetic 70s track

endurance lasted to maybe 2k

speed trained athlete

would've destroyed rudy, coe, elg

above is not me

notice the period at the end of his name

but i do agree with what he said

Come undone wrote:

Ventolin also fails to mention that Ryun's last 800m was 1:50.5, so the 3rd lap was a fairly pedestrian 60.0 sec flat.

what part of

3'38.2 on dirt

with legendary finish

do you not comprehend?

which is lack of analysis on his part

a last 300 or 400 push is what every great shoud/has been asked in a slow, tactictal race in

THIS

way

no one, & i mean no one has run

50.5/36.5 with 11.6 !!!/24.8 or 24.9

he's contradicting himself, obviously awed by what he saw & trying to scramble some footing

clearly, the run blew him away & he coudn't comprehend it & had to try to include others later

he wasted his time

11.6 in a 36.5 in a 3'38.2 on dirt is beyond belief !!!

extreme backtracking & trying to comprhend the unbelievable

he's immediateley comparing him to hicham/bernie of

3'27

shape prior

i doubt in his wildest dreams he had ovett in same universe

idiot

we look at final time

3'38.2

no one else in history has run under 38 in a sub-3'39

ryun ran on dirt

11.6 !!! in 36.5 !!!

someone had to do it wrote:

what part of

3'38.2 on dirt

with legendary finish

do you not comprehend?

"with legendary finish"? Where is that written?

Come undone wrote:

What you also conveniently fail to mention is that the author of those comments also said,

"To me, this race is unique and I don't think that all the other greats could have run it in THIS way. But for sure this doesn't mean some others could not have beaten Ryun on this day. We just don't know what he could have done against sub 3:30 runners. Or against a 1:46,9 last 800 in faster overall pace. And so on. Would really like to see Ovett against Ryun in this sort of race."

That's what this curious person always does, putting comments which are fitting his "theories" out of the context and lists them as gospel. If someone still hopes to get a rational answer from him, than: good luck to you!

ekjfhg wrote:

someone had to do it wrote:

what part of

3'38.2 on dirt

with legendary finish

do you not comprehend?

"with legendary finish"? Where is that written?

In Ventolin's head movies.