I feel like I get a better run in on the treadmill than if I were to suit up and hit the roads - especially now that it\'s colder and darker out.
Ya treadmills are boring AF, but I feel like I\'m able to open up more since I\'m warmer, and get a more quality run than I would if I went out in the cold.
What do you guys think?
p.s. I don\'t use the treadmill every run, just the days I miss practice because of my internship/classes and have to run in the dark.
Galen Rupp only runs 4 minute pace on the treadmill
Worse
I would say worse because you aren\'t getting all the challenges that the outdoors posses such as hills and wind. You aren\'t going to be racing on a treadmill so way train on one?
Obviously if its freezing outside and the footing is so bad you can\'t even go under 10 minute pace then the treadmill is better though. 9/10 outdoors is better than running on a treadmill.
I am actually putting this to the test since I had a double cheillectomy on my toes last year and the pain is about 50% less on a mill than on the roads and for some damn reason I still want to race. I am only running 3 days a week and biking 4 and have been doing so for 3 months and my running times have gotten no worse and when I do go outside for a run every 2 weeks or so, my pace at a given HR is the same as it always was.
I run on Monday, Wed, Sat (every other run is a workout on the mill, either 5 miles of intervals or a 7 mile tempo, and every other run is a 11 miler at 7:15 pace - I live in Colorado). The other days I ride my bike on a fluid trainer 80 minutes at 260ish watts. I have raced once in the last 3 months and my times have gotten no worse. Granted I am a masters runner with 20 years of 80-100 mile weeks under my belt.
Somebody threw a beer bottle at me while I was on the treadmill, and siced their pit bull on me.
PJW wrote:
I would say worse because you aren't getting all the challenges that the outdoors posses such as hills and wind. You aren't going to be racing on a treadmill so way train on one?
Obviously if its freezing outside and the footing is so bad you can't even go under 10 minute pace then the treadmill is better though. 9/10 outdoors is better than running on a treadmill.
I think it just depends on who you are. If you are a heel striker, you probably need to run outdoors some because you will get a false sense of your ability on a mill as it doesn't punish weak toe-off. I have collected lots of anecdotal evidence and most people I have polled who are hill strikers find treadmill comforable and fast and midfoot/forefoot strikers find them weird and hindering. I am quite sure the mill eases the need for toe-off because since my suergery, I can run on a mill without much too much toe pain, but after an outdoor run I am limping around for a few days. I can get my HR higher for longer on a treadmill because my big toes barely bend and hurt.
Treadmill running isn't the same as running outside since the belt is rolling beneath you. It will mess up your gait and give you too much vertical movement.
I can run a mile 20 seconds faster on a dreadmill compared to a track. Just to show you how dif they are from each other..
You remove wind resistance and the belt "helps" you somewhat.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-iNBEDqr6H8Y/ToElaNPJKtI/AAAAAAAACOw/AIdGaXMG5EA/s640/michael-scott-no.gifDNF wrote:
and the belt "helps" you somewhat.
reikker wrote:
Treadmill running isn't the same as running outside since the belt is rolling beneath you.
NOOOOOOO.
DNF wrote:
You remove wind resistance and the belt "helps" you somewhat.
Correct. The belt helps moving your feet backwards.
It's crazy that people believe treadmill running is the same as outside running.
Ok I believe and accept the argument that the treadmill isn't as good as the roads, but what about in the circumstance like it is very cold and dark outside, and probably won't get a great run in. I can push 620s or faster on the treadmill opposed to uncomfortably shuffling at 720s
MMLP4 wrote:
Ok I believe and accept the argument that the treadmill isn't as good as the roads, but what about in the circumstance like it is very cold and dark outside, and probably won't get a great run in. I can push 620s or faster on the treadmill opposed to uncomfortably shuffling at 720s
I do ~80% of my winter running on the TM. It has not stopped me from improving my race times. I really don't think you will have a problem with it.
reikker wrote:
DNF wrote:You remove wind resistance and the belt "helps" you somewhat.
Correct. The belt helps moving your feet backwards.
It's crazy that people believe treadmill running is the same as outside running.
When I run on a treadmill, I always put the incline at 12%. That way, you get MORE of a benefit than an outdoor run.
This Again wrote:
reikker wrote:Correct. The belt helps moving your feet backwards.
It's crazy that people believe treadmill running is the same as outside running.
When I run on a treadmill, I always put the incline at 12%. That way, you get MORE of a benefit than an outdoor run.
Yes, the steeper the incline the less "cheating" you get from vertical movement and the closer it gets to outdoor running.
I don't mind the boredom of treadmill running, I can just watch a good show or whatever but the same constant foot strike kills my legs.
Maybe my opinion would change if I had access to a better treadmill and not one that feels like I am running on a hardwood floor.
reikker wrote:
Correct. The belt helps moving your feet backwards.
STOP IT.
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5452300Hardloper wrote:
STOP IT.
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5452300
You obviously haven't ever run on a treadmill. Any dolt immediately feels the difference when switching back and forth between treadmill and outdoor running.
There is definitely a difference, as I run much faster outside.
What treadmills are you all using and how do you like them?
