1. Oregon is too deep and will peak at Nationals. Jeremy Elkaim is going to be All-American and Mac fleet will finish in the top ten. Oregon FTW
2. Colorado has five guys that can go All-American with Jake Hursz finally running they can easily take the second spot on the podium.
3. Northern Arizona will better last years result returning the top 5.
4. OSU Graduates Girma and suffers to find a 4th and 5th man.
NCAAs.
no dude. mac fleet was tenth in his conference.
Compare the top 5 of Oregon, Colorado, Northern Arizona, and Oklahoma State.
OR:
Cheserek (4:03/13:57)
Stinson (13:3x/28:
Fleet (1:46/3:38)
Leingang (4:07/14:11)
Elkaim?(3:59/13:39)
French guy?
Melancon?
CO:
Hurysz (is he healthy yet?)(3:40/13:38)
Pearson
Saarel (4:02/8:45)
Thoreaux
Winter/Murphy
NAU:
Futsum (13:50)
McElroy (8:11/14:10 been injured during track)
Shrader (4:03/7:59)
Weitz (3:59)
Trouard 4:07/8:52)
OK ST:
Farell (3:41/7:51/13:15)
Kipchirchir(4:07/13:38)
Manilfasha (8:16/14:24 must be in better shape than that?)
Erassa (3:58/7:49/13:47)
Gohlke (3:53/14:11)
Moskowitz(3:59)
Nowak (4:08/8:15/14:37 seems to be much better than that)
Noelle (1:48/3:41)
I'm not sure about some of the Colorado guys' PRs. However, in conclusion, game over. OK State wins easily.
Not only Verzbicas but what if Schrader and Goodman (English stud) had stayed at Oregon? And what if Jenkins was healthy? That would be a team of Chesereck, Stinson, Schrader, Verzbicas, Jenkins and Goodman. It would be possible that they would give Colorado and OSU a good "run" for the title.
The dreamer wrote:
Not only Verzbicas but what if Schrader and Goodman (English stud) had stayed at Oregon? And what if Jenkins was healthy? That would be a team of Chesereck, Stinson, Schrader, Verzbicas, Jenkins and Goodman. It would be possible that they would give Colorado and OSU a good "run" for the title.
Maybe that alleged squad could give Colorado and OSU a run for their money if they ran for some random university, but not at Oregon, who has shown to be poor at producing good cross teams with the talent they get.
OK ST:
Farell (3:41/7:51/13:15)
Kipchirchir(4:07/13:38)
Manilfasha (8:16/14:24 must be in better shape than that?)
Erassa (3:58/7:49/13:47)
Gohlke (3:53/14:11)
Moskowitz(3:59)
Nowak (4:08/8:15/14:37 seems to be much better than that)
Noelle (1:48/3:41)
Chad Noelle did not run 1:48?
Erassa cant compete at nationals, Farrel hasnt been the same after his injury, Manlifasha hasn't shows a good result, and Moskowitz has only competed once and didn't run that well at BIG 12's. OSU is more scared to lose than win!
I Agree with this one Oregon or colorado wins.
Colorado beats OSU based on some changes of last years results. Manilafasha hasn't done anything this year and Erassa seems fold when it matters. Track times don't mean anything!!!! Oregon gets 3rd finally making the podium
Oklahoma State:
Tom Farrel 3
Kipchirchir 11
Joseph Manilafasha 80
Shane Moskowitz 40
Kirubel Erassa 134
Total Score: 268
Colorado:
Jake Hurys 24
Blake Theroux 26
Murphy Pierce 28
Conner Winter 33
Ben Saarel 47
DARK wrote:
Colorado beats OSU based on some changes of last years results. Manilafasha hasn't done anything this year and Erassa seems fold when it matters. Track times don't mean anything!!!! Oregon gets 3rd finally making the podium
Oklahoma State:
Tom Farrel 3
Kipchirchir 11
Joseph Manilafasha 80
Shane Moskowitz 40
Kirubel Erassa 134
Total Score: 268
Colorado:
Jake Hurys 24
Blake Theroux 26
Murphy Pierce 28
Conner Winter 33
Ben Saarel 47
I agree with some of the things you have posted here. I have heard some rumors that Hursyz might be running (pardon my spelling) but haven't seen anything from him this season obviously. If he runs, that should lower their team score by, lets say, 40 points? They have incredible depth without him
NAU looks very good. We haven't seen them really throw their A team out there, other than their dominating performance at Wisco. This team has one of the best 1,2,3 punches out there.
Oregon is a bunch of dark horses. Although, they normally choke, I say they get 4th, making the podium.
OK State, this is for sure their meet to lose. We have seen their guys choke regularly, but I do believe that they will win it. Kirubel Erassa is the biggest question for me. Didn't he finish way back last year? Seems to be a different runner now. But I think it's possible, and very possible, that they do lose.
OSU Wins again!!! End of thread
Let's be real. Hurysz is not running and even if he did he wouldn't help at this point. You don't just jump in one race and end up AA.
lets be real here. If he was running we would have heard way more about it from either him or flotrack. He isn't running, which is the best decision for him and the team going forward. Stop putting false rumors out there nobody said he was thinking of running. Show some respect to him and the guys that are competing for them.
Chess Master wrote:
You don't just jump in one race and end up AA.
If you're fast enough, sure you can, no?
Troll.
[quote]NE Runner454 wrote:
Compare the top 5 of Oregon, Colorado, Northern Arizona, and Oklahoma State.
OR:
Cheserek (4:03/13:57)
Stinson (13:3x/28:
Fleet (1:46/3:38)
Leingang (4:07/14:11)
Elkaim?(3:59/13:39)
French guy?
Melancon?
quote]
Winn is not to be forgotten.
I've got a sleeper for top four: Stanford. I don't see them beating Colorado, NAU or Oklahoma State, but I think they have a chance of taking down the Ducks and BYU.
Here's why: Jim Rosa, showing up big in second at Pac-12. Erik Olson, a hair behind Oregon's Mac Fleet at that conference meet (run at altitude), in eleventh place. Michael Atchoo, Stanford's school indoor mile record holder, in 12th. Tyler Stutzman, another sub-four miler, in 20th. Their fifth man (Garrett Sweatt), was back in 34th place, unfortunately, while Stanford's TOP runner in the previous meet, the freshman stud Sean McGorty, who was running with Fleet at 6,000-meters, tanked and DNF'ed. (Perhaps the altitude? I don't know...) But if he'd finished with Fleet and Olson and Atchoo, they would have picked up twenty-plus points and come close to nipping Oregon that day in Colorado.
So why do I think they could beat Oregon at nationals? This past Saturday at the Doc Adams Invitational at Davis, sophomore Tom Graham ran 24:08 to finish second, with Jim Rosa's twin Joe back from injury in third (24:13). So if They could plug this duo into the team of Sean McGorty, Eric Olson, Jim & Joe Rosa, Michael Atchoo and Tyler Stutzman: That is potentially a pretty damn good cross-country team.
Almost anything can happen on race day, but maybe Stanford is ready to reverse their dismal performances in recent years at the NCAA Championships? Just sayin'...
And let's not miss the point that other than last year, Oregon normally runs very well when they get to the NCAA meet. I'm calling it OSU, Colorado, NAU, Oregon in that order.
Jenkins will be Oregon number 1 or 2 if he ever runs this year. And that will really help since Oregon is only 4 deep on most races it seems this year.
The Fans wrote:
OSU Wins again!!! End of thread
You mean OKST imports another championship. Okst can't coach, only recruit foreigners to win. None of the OKST guys do jack after college