Sarah Baxter 16:10

op#1 wrote:

( 66 opening 400m, 4:58 opening mile)

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

It's XC, buddy, you can relax. And it's Mt. Sac.

Buddy, the OP started talking about times and how the fast start "hurt her," not me.

Sounds like brutal pacing to me but she got the win so, who cares? Nobody ever critiques the tactics of collegiate winners, and then win the same stupid tactics don't work on the big stage (RUPP) everyone acts surprised.

Was a good run, out by herself most of the way.

What I don't get is why she is not as good in track.

It's not hot in the morning there. Were you there?

It's in the 50's, low 60's when she raced.

Yesterday after 12 noon was hot and will heat up later today. But hardly what you're implying.

Are you trollin'?

Fantastic performance. This is Sarah Baxter so she will probably be a little disappointed but still an amazing time.

With the huge expectations from last year, you knew she was gonna go out guns blazing. She definitely should have attempted a more even split race. 66 seconds for the 1st 400m is ridiculous.

What are you talking about Animal Within? I don't know where you are but it's damn close to 80 right now without a cloud in the sky. The predicted high for today is 86.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

op#1 wrote:

( 66 opening 400m, 4:58 opening mile)

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

She was trying to break the world record and after 600 meters she realized there wouldnt be attention because it isnt really a 5k. So she decided just to treat it like a tempo run.

rupp-certiefied saladbar wrote:

Buddy, the OP started talking about times and how the fast start "hurt her," not me.

Sounds like brutal pacing to me but she got the win so, who cares? Nobody ever critiques the tactics of collegiate winners, and then win the same stupid tactics don't work on the big stage (RUPP) everyone acts surprised.

Not comparable at all. In XC at EVERY level it's pretty normal to go fast at the beginning so you get a good position, then relax a bit, then go fast at the end.

It was 66 degrees at 11 am this morning.

That's what I'm saying.

Davey Guy wrote:

Was a good run, out by herself most of the way.

What I don't get is why she is not as good in track.

How is she not as good in track? Doesn't she win everything in track also?

It was clearly not hot. "Ideal" is more the term I would use.

69 at 10am

72 at 11am

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Buddy, the OP started talking about times and how the fast start "hurt her," not me.

Sounds like brutal pacing to me but she got the win so, who cares? Nobody ever critiques the tactics of collegiate winners, and then win the same stupid tactics don't work on the big stage (RUPP) everyone acts surprised.

xenonscreams wrote:

Not comparable at all. In XC at EVERY level it's pretty normal to go fast at the beginning so you get a good position, then relax a bit, then go fast at the end.

Like I said, the OP is the one who pointed out that this probably "hurt her," not me.

I think that these tactics were poor, yes (she was ahead far beyond "good position"), but since she was essentially unopposed the result is good. In XC that's all that matters.

Doesn't mean I can't enjoy a good LOL at 66 opening quarter in a 16:15 race.

And yes the application of less-than-ideal tactics over lesser competition, to achieve a "successful" result, is very comparable to Rupp's NCAA career.

i didn't hear the announcer give 400 splits for other races, but 66 seems unreal. baxter's 800 PR is 2:17...though i'm sure that's not her best

kskxk wrote:

Davey Guy wrote:

Was a good run, out by herself most of the way.

What I don't get is why she is not as good in track.

How is she not as good in track? Doesn't she win everything in track also?

Look at Baxter's PR's

800 2:17.48

1600 4:49.33

3200 10:06.74

Here are the PR's of another girl in the same grade

800 1:59.51

1 mile 4:28.25

2 mile 9:38.68

You do know who I am talking about

reed wrote:

i didn't hear the announcer give 400 splits for other races, but 66 seems unreal. baxter's 800 PR is 2:17...though i'm sure that's not her best

Except that by definition it is her best.

Davey Guy wrote:

Look at Baxter's PR's

800 2:17.48

1600 4:49.33

3200 10:06.74

Here are the PR's of another girl in the same grade

800 1:59.51

1 mile 4:28.25

2 mile 9:38.68

You do know who I am talking about

So you ignored the point in my post where I said that she wins everything in track just as she does in xc thus making her track performances just as good. Mary Cain's performances are completely irrelevant to that point. But since you bring it up, Cain had pacers all the way through the finish line in all of her PRs. Baxter hasn't had that opportunity.

Great kid and great team player. She mentioned mid way into the interview that she was feeling the pressure a bit which is completely understandable. She is definitely capable of breaking 16...it just wasn't her day today.

16:10 at Mt SAC is still absolutely ridiculous and is a fantastic BOYS time. She should still be considered the clear NXN favorite.

kskxk wrote:

Davey Guy wrote:

Look at Baxter's PR's

800 2:17.48

1600 4:49.33

3200 10:06.74

Here are the PR's of another girl in the same grade

800 1:59.51

1 mile 4:28.25

2 mile 9:38.68

You do know who I am talking about

So you ignored the point in my post where I said that she wins everything in track just as she does in xc thus making her track performances just as good. Mary Cain's performances are completely irrelevant to that point. But since you bring it up, Cain had pacers all the way through the finish line in all of her PRs. Baxter hasn't had that opportunity.

Baxter has never lost a track race? I did get your point that Baxter has won a lot of races on the track. But being so great (GOAT?) in CC I would think she would be running faster times. I don't think 800 and 1500 are her best events. I am thinking a 5000 might be a better event, nor sure if she has run it on a track.

I don't know if Cain had pacers but she was running with others ahead of her so I would say she did have a advantage.

This is what I do like about Baxter, she is a front runner!