Top 10 XC Freshmen

RS included or not?

What are your thoughts on the girls?

26mi235 wrote:

RS included or not?

Seeing as Malachy Schrobilgen is on that list and he graduated High School in 2012 and redshirted the 2012 XC season, I would assume freshmen who graduated in 2013 and are redshirting this 2013 season are not included on that list.

No Mike Tate from Canada/SUU? He beat Cosmas Boit at Pre-Nats....

I'm putting Saarel #1.

Cheserek hasn't gotten much better and he already was likely older than everyone else. Less room for development.

I see Saarel eventually being the best runner out of all of them, but as XC Freshman you're right to say Edward and McGorty are the top two.

Kieran Clements. Get your head out of your asses. There are non-US guys in the NCAA that are too good to discard.

I second the nomination of Mike Tate from SUU. 24:17(?) at Pre Nats.

Top true freshman from Wisconsin

Andy Trouard NAU 23:57

Jacob Thompson NC State 24:16

Bernie Montoya 24:32

furdog wrote:

Top true freshman from Wisconsin

Andy Trouard NAU 23:57

Jacob Thompson NC State 24:16

Bernie Montoya 24:32

Uhhhhh definitely incorrect. You missed like 6 guys.

great point forgot about Iona's Clements..

Here is a new Top 20 list of Freshmen or Redshirt Freshman

01 | Edward Cheserek | Oregon

02 | Sean McGorty | Stanford

03 | Malachy Schrobilgen | Wisconsin

04 | Ben Saarel | Colorado

05 | Kieran Clements | Iona

06 | Carl Smith | Indiana

07 | MJ Erb | Syracuse

08 | Andy Trouard | Northern Arizona

09 | Patrick Tiernan | Villanova

10 | Jake Leingang | Oregon

11 | Cosmas Boit | UTEP

12 | Ambrose Maritim | Eastern Kentucky

13 | Liam Markham | Illinois

14 | Jason Crist | Indiana

15 | Mike Tate | Southern Utah

16 | Jacob Thomson | North Carolina St.

17 | Adam Visokay | Virginia

18 | Tanner Hinkle | Furman

19 | Cory Glines | Michigan

20 | Jack Boyle | Columbia

Trouard is a baby in this sport. Very talented kid who will be a great one. Besides his XC performance, I could see him running 8:48 in the steeple this spring.

I went back and looked at Flotrack's Flo rating and put them in order based off of the list of twenty that "fun" posted above. These are from last weekends results (Wisco/PreNats weekend)

1. 217.4 Edward Cheserek | Oregon

2. 215.4 Sean McGorty | Stanford

3. 215.1 Malachy Schrobilgen | Wisconsin

4. 214.8 Ben Saarel | Colorado

5. 211.9 Kieran Clements | Iona

6. 209.7 Carl Smith | Indiana

7. 209.7 MJ Erb | Syracuse

8. 208.7 Andy Trouard | Northern Arizona

9. 207.2 Jake Leingang | Oregon

10. 205.4 Ambrose Maritim | Eastern Kentucky

11. 205.2 Liam Markham | Illinois

12. 204.7 Patrick Tiernan | Villanova

13. 202.6 Jason Crist | Indiana

14. 202.5 Mike Tate | Southern Utah

15. 202.4 Jacob Thomson | North Carolina St.

16. 201.1 Cory Glines | Michigan

17. 200.7 Jack Boyle | Columbia

18. 198.0 Cosmas Boit | UTEP

19. 196.4 Adam Visokay | Virginia

20. 192.0 Tanner Hinkle | Furman

Then I became curious and went through and looked these kids up to see a little background on them. I separated them out into three categories. True Freshman (graduated high school in the spring of 2013), Red Shirt Freshman, and Foreigners.

5. 211.9 Kieran Clements | Iona – Sophomore

11. 205.2 Liam Markham | Illinois – Sophomore

These two were both listed as sophomores on their school's website.

True Freshman

1. 217.4 Edward Cheserek | Oregon FR

2. 215.4 Sean McGorty | Stanford FR

3. 214.8 Ben Saarel | Colorado FR

4. 208.7 Andy Trouard | Northern Arizona FR

5. 207.2 Jake Leingang | Oregon FR

6. 202.4 Jacob Thomson | North Carolina St. FR

7. 201.1 Cory Glines | Michigan FR

8. 200.7 Jack Boyle | Columbia FR

9. 192.0 Tanner Hinkle | Furman FR

Red Shirt Freshman

1. 215.1 Malachy Schrobilgen | Wisconsin RFR

2. 209.7 Carl Smith | Indiana RFR

3. 209.7 MJ Erb | Syracuse RFR

4. 202.6 Jason Crist | Indiana RFR

5. 196.4 Adam Visokay | Virginia RFR

Foreign Freshman and Foreign Red Shirt Freshman

1. 205.4 Ambrose Maritim | Eastern Kentucky FR - Kenya

2. 204.7 Patrick Tiernan | Villanova RFR - Australia

3. 202.5 Mike Tate | Southern Utah FR – Nova Scotia

4. 198.0 Cosmas Boit | UTEP FR- Kenya

Not that this makes a big difference in anything. I mean, they don't hand out trophies for the youngest at nationals, just the fastest.

5. 211.9 Kieran Clements | Iona

11. 205.2 Liam Markham | Illinois

are sophomore in track eligbilty but freshmen in xc eligibilty, both redshirted xc last year but ran indoor and outdoor track

You missed Ben Flanagan from Michigan at 200.4 flo rating

18. 198.0 Cosmas Boit | UTEP

19. 196.4 Adam Visokay | Virginia

20. 192.0 Tanner Hinkle | Furman

these three have higher floratings in previous race before wisco/prenats