Main differences between Canova and Hansons marathon training??

One involves sophisticated manipulation of blood profiles, the other does not.

Canova believes in much more modulation in training than the Hansons. Canova has his athletes perform very hard workouts like his classic 40k hard run or 5 by 5k and then he gives them adequate recovery. The Hansons do not believe that any one day should be overly taxing but that the training as a whole should provide the stimulus. They would rather have their athletes run decent workouts on tired legs that add up over time than very hard workouts that take a lot of time to recover from.

There are many other difference but this is a big one from what I have observed.

Thx. Could you describe the 40k hard run and the 5x5k in comparison to marathon pace. I've read Hansons take runs ~10s/mi to create strength and their 26.2k simulator run at mp.

Canova>God wrote:

Canova believes in much more modulation in training than the Hansons. Canova has his athletes perform very hard workouts like his classic 40k hard run or 5 by 5k and then he gives them adequate recovery. The Hansons do not believe that any one day should be overly taxing but that the training as a whole should provide the stimulus. They would rather have their athletes run decent workouts on tired legs that add up over time than very hard workouts that take a lot of time to recover from.

There are many other difference but this is a big one from what I have observed.

Hansons - go to work, eat pizza, drink beer, run hard

Canova - intelligent elite level training

One works and the other doesn't.

I believe the current Running Times has an article that surveys the current major training plans (including Hansons, Pfitzinger, Daniels). Canova doesn't have a good book that's easy to follow.

What does that mean?

Fair assessment: The Hansons get moderate talents and destroy them. Canova gets the best talent in the world and makes them world champions.

Carl Spackler wrote:

I believe the current Running Times has an article that surveys the current major training plans (including Hansons, Pfitzinger, Daniels). Canova doesn't have a good book that's easy to follow.

Is this the article you are referring to?

Here is a PDF about Canova's training. It contains workouts for the marathon and what paces his athletes run at.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_zzkn1-wR0dYzkzM2U0ZjctMjE1NC00ZjI4LWI5YTgtMTRhY2NhYjBhZjQz/edit?usp=drive_web&pli=1

turkey bacon wrote:

Could someone point out the main differences between the coaching and training of Canova and Hanson Brooks groups..?

One has produced a 2:03:06 marathoner and a silver medalist at the last olympics, and the other hasn't

Just saying but how much luck has Canova had with R. Hall?

You don't have a clue wrote:

Just saying but how much luck has Canova had with R. Hall?

He does not coach Hall.

He did coach Hall.

How is it an Italian coaches Africans? Why don't Kenyans coach themselves and coach Canova try his hand at coaching some Italian runners? How many Italian coaches have found their way to Africa ..Rosa(s), Canova ..., how many? Then ask WHY? $$$ that's why. Those aren't training camps as much as running farms where the best of the best are harvested each year and have the likes of Canova wring every last dime & dollar from them.

I don't understand how a person can be upset about an Italian coaching Africans in 2013. It sounds like something you'd hear from Mussolini in WWII. Kenya is where the marathoners are, and Canova is a good coach. He is better suited in a place where running is revered instead of Italy. I also don't understand the concern over money. No one in this field(running) really makes enough money to be truly immoral.

I like the points you make. While I do not know the financial situation, one cannot deny Canova works with some of the world's most gifted runners.

And just because the athletes Canova works with (Africans) produce fast times; this doesn't make his training methods superior.

I remember sitting in a seminar in Denver at the ACSM annual meeting - Dr. Randy Wilber was saying that most of the non-African runners who travel to Kenya to train with these groups simply cannot handle volume or intensity of the training.

Working with fast runners and producing fast times certainly doesn't make Canova's methods inferior either. It just means they are most appropriate for faster runners and likely to overtrain the average Letsrunner.

The trick is learning how to train to get good enough to train as hard as the best in the world. You can't just keep adding miles and cutting long interval times from the cycle that got you to 2:15.

They are not really that different.

Both are based on marathon SPECIFIC workouts that involve longer runs that incorporate intensity. Also both have their athletes running 120+ mile weeks.

Preparing well for a marathon involves running a lot of aerobic miles and running workouts that teach your body to deal either glycogen depletion.

Both systems do this