Notable absence of Ethiopian men. Hmmn.....
Notable absence of Ethiopian men. Hmmn.....
This will be a bit of a re-debut for Mattie Suver. She has recently broken 72 in the half.
Otherwise, it seems like it is Biwott and Jeptoo's race to lose. They are both in great form right now.
There are no big Ethiopian men in the race because they actually put their top guys up at Worlds. The rest are racing Chicago or Berlin.
Jeptoo and Biwott haven't run the course before, so I'd drop their chances a bit. Jeptoo still seems like the clear favorite, but not Biwott. He's good, but Geoffrey Mutai and Stephen Kiprotich will be tough. Geoffrey Mutai knows the course and Kiprotich knows how to run championship style races - i.e., no pacers.
Precious Roy wrote:
This will be a bit of a re-debut for Mattie Suver. She has recently broken 72 in the half.
Otherwise, it seems like it is Biwott and Jeptoo's race to lose. They are both in great form right now.
There are no big Ethiopian men in the race because they actually put their top guys up at Worlds. The rest are racing Chicago or Berlin.
Precious Roy wrote:
There are no big Ethiopian men in the race because they actually put their top guys up at Worlds. The rest are racing Chicago or Berlin.
All of them? Wow, I didn't realize there were so few Ethiopian men.
dljdlkfjlj wrote:
Jeptoo and Biwott haven't run the course before, so I'd drop their chances a bit. Jeptoo still seems like the clear favorite, but not Biwott. He's good, but Geoffrey Mutai and Stephen Kiprotich will be tough. Geoffrey Mutai knows the course and Kiprotich knows how to run championship style races - i.e., no pacers.
Precious Roy wrote:This will be a bit of a re-debut for Mattie Suver. She has recently broken 72 in the half.
Otherwise, it seems like it is Biwott and Jeptoo's race to lose. They are both in great form right now.
There are no big Ethiopian men in the race because they actually put their top guys up at Worlds. The rest are racing Chicago or Berlin.
Yeah, but Geoffrey Mutai doesn't really seem like the force he was a couple of years ago. I wouldn't bet against Biwott, can't see Kiprotich doing anything if it goes faster than 2.07
Parochial boy wrote:
can't see Kiprotich doing anything if it goes faster than 2.07
I wouldn't bet against Kiprotich. Same flawed argument as many letsrunners like to use against Mo Farah.
Not sure about Mutai, he hasn't raced since January? If he is in good shape then I call that it's one of those two.
No Abdi. I know he'd been trying to market himself to run there.
Mutai vs. Kiprotich should be good. I hope GM rolls him.
viva Italia wrote:
All of them? Wow, I didn't realize there were so few Ethiopian men.
NYRR is having big problems recruiting Ethiopians since they updated their drug policy. If one of them tests positive (and NYRR is known for testing their athletes) they are never going to invite them again. The risk is far too high and it's much better for them to run Berlin or even wait for Dubai where they're not subject to testing.
The other guy! wrote:
NYRR is having big problems recruiting Ethiopians since they updated their drug policy. If one of them tests positive (and NYRR is known for testing their athletes) they are never going to invite them again. The risk is far too high and it's much better for them to run Berlin or even wait for Dubai where they're not subject to testing.
Again, all of them? If one Ethiopian tests positive then the NYRR are never going to invite a single Ethiopian again? There's zero drug testing in Dubai? Berlin is not rigorous in its drug testing? Those are some pretty sweeping statements.
Mutai is running Udine Half on Sunday. That should be a decent gauge of his fitness.
On paper, only Mutai ever ran faster than Ryan Halls 2:04. He should be in the mix.
Halleluja wrote:
On paper, only Mutai ever ran faster than Ryan Halls 2:04. He should be in the mix.
On paper, Meb is more reliable than Hall, and I would bet fares better in NYC again.
The other guy! wrote:
NYRR is having big problems recruiting Ethiopians since they updated their drug policy. If one of them tests positive (and NYRR is known for testing their athletes) they are never going to invite them again. The risk is far too high and it's much better for them to run Berlin or even wait for Dubai where they're not subject to testing.
Every IAAF Label Event must conduct drug testing.
viva Italia wrote:
Again, all of them? If one Ethiopian tests positive then the NYRR are never going to invite a single Ethiopian again? There's zero drug testing in Dubai? Berlin is not rigorous in its drug testing? Those are some pretty sweeping statements.
He's lying.
MenGeoffrey Mutai (Kenya) - 2:04:15 (Berlin 2012) / 2:03:02a (Boston 2011)Stanley Biwott (Kenya) - 2:05:12 (Paris 2012)Wesley Korir (Kenya) - 2:06:13 (Chicago 2012)Ryan Hall (U.S.A.) - 2:06:17 (London 2008) / 2:04:58a (Boston 2011)Peter Kirui (Kenya) - 2:06:31 (Frankfurt 2011)Stephen Kiprotich (Uganda) - 2:07:20 (Enschede 2011)Jose Manuel Martinez (Spain) - 2:08:09 (Rotterdam 2003)Yuki Kawauchi (Japan) - 2:08:14 (Seoul Int'l 2013)Mebrahtom Keflezighi (U.S.A.) - 2:09:08 (Houston 2012)Masato Imai (Japan) - 2:10:29 (Tokyo 2013)Jason Hartmann (U.S.A.) - 2:11:06 (Chicago 2010)Ryan Vail (U.S.A.) - 2:11:45 (Fukuoka 2012)Jeff Eggleston (U.S.A.) - 2:12:03 (Chicago 2012)Daniele Meucci (Italy) - 2:13:49 (Rome 2010)Bob Tahri (France) - debutWomenEdna Kiplagat (Kenya) - 2:19:50 (London 2012)Priscah Jeptoo (Kenya) - 2:20:14 (London 2012)Jelena Prokopcuka (Latvia) - 2:22:56 (Osaka 2005)Firehiwot Dado (Ethiopia) - 2:23:15 (New York 2007)Buzunesh Deba (Ethiopia) - 2:23:19 (New York 2011)Tetyana Gamera-Shmyrko (Ukraine) - 2:23:58 (Osaka 2013)Risa Shigetomo (Japan) - 2:23:23 (Osaka 2012)Christelle Daunay (France) - 2:24:22 (Paris 2012)Kim Smith (New Zealand) - 2:25:21 (London 2010)Ana Dulce Felix (Portugal) - 2:25:40 (New York 2011)Lisa Stublic (Croatia) - 2:25:44 (Zurich 2013)Sabrina Mockenhaupt (Germany) - 2:26:21 (Berlin 2010)Amy Hastings (U.S.A.) - 2:27:17 (Houston 2012)Adriana Nelson (U.S.A.) - 2:28:52 (London 2008)Adriana Da Silva (Brazil) - 2:29:17 (Tokyo 2012)Janet Bawcom (U.S.A.) - 2:29:45 (Houston 2012)Diane Nukuri-Johnson (Burundi) - 2:30:13 (London 2012)Alisha Williams (U.S.A.) - 2:35:09 (Houston 2012) / 2:34:58a (Cal Int'l 2012)Yolanda Caballero (Colombia) - 2:35:10a (Boston 2013)Mattie Suver (U.S.A.) - 2:50:23 (Houston 2012)Julie Culley (U.S.A.) - debuthttp://www.letsrun.com/news/2013/09/defending-champions-geoffrey-mutai-firehiwot-dado-reigning-world-olympic-marathon-champion-stephen-kiprotich-two-time-world-marathon-champion-2010-winner-edna-kiplagat-lead-internati/LetsRun.com Note: We added to the title to make it more desriptive and want you to know that we've written an analysis of the men's fields and women's fields which are now up.
LRC: Geoffrey Mutai ran 2:03:02 in the same race where Ryan Hall ran 2:04:58, the heavily aided Boston '11. You (and the NYRR) should either list Mutai's PR as 2:04:15 and Hall's as 2:06:17 or use the Boston marks for both.
Also, Masato Imai is 29, not 19.
Kinda funny that Tahri is debuting here after dropping down to 1500m all year
dljdlkfjlj wrote:
Jeptoo still seems like the clear favorite, but not Biwott. He's good, but Geoffrey Mutai and Stephen Kiprotich will be tough. Geoffrey Mutai knows the course and Kiprotich knows how to run championship style races - i.e., no pacers.
Agreed. Last time Mutai touched this course he utterly dismantled it running alone to a ridiculous 2:05:06 CR. He could have run 2:04 that day ON NEW YORK.
Parochial boy wrote:
I wouldn't bet against Biwott, can't see Kiprotich doing anything if it goes faster than 2.07
Why not? His 2:07:20 was in 2011 at the Enschede Marathon in Holland. Heard of it? No? Well, what you need to know is that the race was totally solo. (Why does nobody read before they write comments like this?)
In Kiprotich's championship races, he did what he needed to the win. (i.e. Biding his time and crushing the last 5k from behind the leaders in London, only running away in the last few k in Moscow.) The security of these wins suggests that we have seen nothing even near his ceiling yet.
Frankly, I think that Biwott is the weakest prediction of the three.
Is Tsegaye Kebede injured? I don't see his name in Berlin, Chicago or New York. If the reason is that he has run WC and has not recovered for a fall marathon, Kiprotich who has won the WC marathon is doing NY.
Kiprotich might end up winning the world marathon majors if he wins NY (don't know what will happen if he is second, as that will put him the same point as Kebede).
https://worldmarathonmajors.com/US/series/
I find it a bit strange if he is not injured, as 500K is at stake, and all he has to do is finish 5th, which will give him a total of 66 that no one can surpass this year.
Kebede has 65 points Kiprotich 50 points, kiprotich. If kip wins new york he will take 500k if he is second then they will both be at 65. head to head kebede beat kiprotich in london but Kip beat kebede in wc, kebede could have an advantage of average time. I think Kebede has a higher chance,My bet Kebede will take the title i can only place Kip in 3rd position in new york.
Yeah, but Geoffrey Mutai doesn't really seem like the force he was a couple of years ago. [/quote]
? He set a PR in the half back in February (58:58) and a few days ago he was only 8s off his PR at the Udine HM with a 59:06. If he's running that fast off of marathon training, watch out!