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Igy, your response to my post seems a lot more balanced and thoughtful than your oritinal comments lead me to believe.

Enjoy your daughter’s birthday and her attaining law partner, as you say. We celebrated my son's birthday a few days ago, and it was fun. Had to do it outside on the porch, with a heater, but it was still fun. He's not in our immediate household so we thought it wise to take that precaution.

Enjoy and cograts on your running progress as well,

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Ran my longest run in years at 10.25 mikes this morning. If I can keep it up, I would like to race a half marathon this spring.

Igy

huah go igy go

Running Dogg wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Ran my longest run in years at 10.25 mikes this morning. If I can keep it up, I would like to race a half marathon this spring.

Hope you are well.

Igy

I believe in setting the bar high, but there is such a thing as too high. With a goal of racing a half in the spring, you should be running significantly more than 10 minutes by now. But be careful of doing too much too soon.

Do you have a coach?

funny when newbies don't know who they are talking to

(Igy is a former US record holder and coached for decades)

Unless you were being sarcastic.

Thanks for the props agip. Got a way to go, but significant improvement on cardiovascular strength. Feeling like my old/older self

Thanks Seattle. We had a good dinner out, first in months. I fortunate to have a good family in spite of their husband/father.

Best,

Igy

seattle prattle wrote:

No. I never will.

I don't really spend much. Lately i've bought a few vintage woodworking machines off of cragislist to restore and put to use. They are real beauties. LOL. You asked.

I have a problem with paying for luxury items like expensive cars when there are so many struggling just to get by. I can get everywhere i need to very comfortably in a nice, modest car. It matters a lot to me to not waste for my own selfish reasons when those kind of dollars are the difference in their very subsistence. I let my fundamental values also steer me away from vehicles that aren't environmentally friendly.

oooookkkkk... so that's response has at least a dozen loaded statements I won't get into. I'll just stick with the car part. For some people, driving is chore - a regrettable task that couldn't be automated soon enough. To these people, a midsize CUV Honda is no different than any other car. It gets you from A to B, so what's all the fuss?

Some people though love to drive, and the experience, especially being able to row your own gears, is special. Kind of like using an antique lathe.

agip wrote:

Running Dogg wrote:

I believe in setting the bar high, but there is such a thing as too high. With a goal of racing a half in the spring, you should be running significantly more than 10 minutes by now. But be careful of doing too much too soon.

Do you have a coach?

funny when newbies don't know who they are talking to

(Igy is a former US record holder and coached for decades)

Unless you were being sarcastic.

Oops. Well I guess he knows then that 10’ runs won’t cut it for half mary training. Or was he being sarcastic?

Fair enough, and you asked me so i was sharing my personal attitude. Glad people who are into that have found something that interests them and holds their attention. Ideally, i hope the issues i raised can be achieved, too. We each choose our priorities and those are mine.

High end autos to me are kind of like golf. I never wanted to try it because first and foremost, i was afraid i'd like it. LOL.

I was trying to think of something i splurge on, and i was just in the process of lacing up a pair of Nike Next% carbon plate shoes to go for a tempo on the track.

Well, there ya go.

Golf is for people who aren't athletic to have an excuse to claim athleticism. Runners don't really need that.

The "I don't want to spend money while there's people less fortunate" can be deconstructed endlessly. Same with the environmental point, although I will point out that industrial ag farming and residential/commercial produces more emissions than cars.

I personally hate EVs and I will drill my own oil and refine my own gasoline if I must in the future. But, that's probably where the industry is headed. For most people I think that's a plus and I understand. I will absolutely be the last guy in the city driving some ridiculous big block 454 '79 Stingray

I look at it like somebody once said, live simply so that others may simply live. So, i need a car, i get one as simple as meets my needs and does as little environmental damage as possible. For me that means good MGP. But i hate the EV/hybrid i drove- the Prius, to the extent that i would eat my values, it was that unenjoyable. I suspect a tesla would be more to my liking but i still have another 5 years in my car before i trade it in at the ripe old age of 11 y.o. at that time.

I can afford a whole lot a sh!t, and that's just not where it's at for me. Really, it's wasted on me.

Dr. Racket wrote:

Re-posting what I wrote from a few days ago. Please remember that Igy is not well and needs our positive support.

I'd like to remind you all that it's typically best not to try to reason/rationalize an individual out of episodes dementia, as it may cause severe stress and potential harm to the individual. Simply nod your head and agree, while ensuring the individual is in a safe environment where he/she can't hurt anyone.

Thanks for posting this again. But rather than offering “positive support”, I’ve become more of a “don’t feed the troll” person. After his disgusting display a few days ago, I made a personal commitment to no longer engage with him. Seeing yesterday’s continuation of his hate speech made me double down on my commitment. Perhaps some others will choose this road as well.

P.S. I fully expect the troll to respond to this with insults or condemnation in an effort to get me to re-engage with him (narcissistic effect). Not happening.

seattle, you should look into ICLN - clean energy ETF that has taken off a lot lately. It has good momentum and high visibility - currently all the rage with kids on other message boards

I don't know how much Seattle Prattle flies, so I'm not talking about him, but in my circle people will say they are environmentalists and maybe have a hybrid...but they fly 6 times per year for recreational purposes. Which means they are probably in the top 0.1% of environmental destroyers.

We really need to solve the flying problem...it's totally destructive.

Prior to Covid many people of modest means traveled the world, including college students. Something I am not interested in. Some may even consider frivolous. I see trucks daily my father-in-law once called “weapons carriers” that are at least as “pricey” as my sports car, and far less fuel efficient. My social life consists of running with my masters group three times a week, and hanging out with my family. That has been the routine for the decade. We do all our home daily chores and maintenance, unless beyond our skill level. Hardly a life of luxury.

The Cayman engine, I assume this may be common, turns off when in neutral at a stop light, turns back on when in gear. I get 25 mpg in town, and 32 mpg on the road.

Racket, I will definitely look at ICLN, clean energy etf. Thx,

Agip, regarding flying, that is something i struggle with. A tough one because with an emphesis on experiences over goods, it enables some primo experiences, but true enough, when you read about ways to minimize your global footprint, it is just about top on the list as an individual. So much so that it dwarves what kind of car you drive or how often. I don't fly much anymore but the Mrs. wants to travel endlessly when it's safe to do so. As always, it becomes one of the factors to consider, and maybe it just amounts to curbing somewhat what might otherwise be done.

Also, with all the hand-wringing i did about bitcoin energy used to mine it, here i am trading it.

Igy, i didn't know that about Porsche's. Cool stuff. Hey, not to get into the middle of a feud or anything, but I bet you have noticed how some of us get uncomfortable with disparaging the a guys's speech impediment, or those in poverty, etc.

Maserati, you said you were going to buy a considerable chunck of bitcoin on monday. Not sure if you are waiting for a deposit to clear or what, but holy begonias, the thing just dipped like 15% in less that a day, and if you are really committed to it long term (unlike me who is getting cold feet at this point), you might want to jump on it now. It changes and re-traces quickly. Currently at $36,500 down from almost $42K overnight (USD).

Running Dogg wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Ran my longest run in years at 10.25 mikes this morning. If I can keep it up, I would like to race a half marathon this spring.

Hope you are well.

Igy

I believe in setting the bar high, but there is such a thing as too high. With a goal of racing a half in the spring, you should be running significantly more than 10 minutes by now. But be careful of doing too much too soon.

Do you have a coach?

Likely a typo. Probs meant “miles” instead of “mikes”.