What the hell were Gebrhiwet and Alamirew thinking... I almost think the Brits greased their palms a bit to ensure a slow pace. They gamble on track over there.
The two of them sharing the lead could Ngugi Farah and have done with it. Farah has never hit the bell quicker than 12 flat, that was when he ran his PR and he is not in that kind of shape now.
Bad Wigins wrote:
What the hell were Gebrhiwet and Alamirew thinking... I almost think the Brits greased their palms a bit to ensure a slow pace. They gamble on track over there.
The two of them sharing the lead could Ngugi Farah and have done with it. Farah has never hit the bell quicker than 12 flat, that was when he ran his PR and he is not in that kind of shape now.
If they tried that he'd just hang on and outkick them at the end. Why do you think Farah can't run fast; it's not like his PRs suck? And why do some of you who think these guys who ran one or two fast races are somehow better than a guy who has two Olympic golds, and a gold and silver from the WC?
If Ethiopa can whip up a fast pace in at least under 27 up to the bell, mark my words we will not win the double.
The only has comparable speed to Farah is Alamirew. And as long Gebrhiwet is not faster than Mo in the 5000m, he cannot
beat him. None of the Africans are in sub-12:50 shape
right now and so have a problem. See also my analysis in the other thread!!
He will not win the double. *
I agree - a fast pace in 10000m will benefit the Ethiopians.
Jeilan is the favourite here.
He ws trying to make the pace so slow, that it would become fast. Too fast for farah.
yyy wrote:
None of the Africans are in sub-12:50 shape
right now
Mo is not even in sub-13 shape. Not since a long time ago.
Just hit the bell in 12 minutes and there will be no Mo. Alamirew and Gebrhiwet can do that in their sleep. If they do, one of them will win. If they don't, both will lose. It's that simple.
I don't think A and G are that stupid.
Bad Wigins wrote:
They gamble on track over there.
An absolutely miniscule number of people bet on The Worlds and Olympics. And much much less than that are betting on Diamond League races. Very few bookies will even have markets for DL races.
Also pretty much nobody is drinking at these races. I don't know where this wild idea that Euro track meets are full of drunk gamblers game from. It couldn't be further from the truth.
Just thought I'd clear that up.
yyy wrote:
I don't think A and G are that stupid.
they proved you wrong today. They hit the bell with Farah still with them. Nothing is stupider than that.
Pirate from mogadishu wrote:
If Ethiopa can whip up a fast pace in at least under 27 up to the bell, mark my words we will not win the double.
So it won't be like when he ran 26:46 in Oregon in 2011?
.Bad Wigins wrote:
yyy wrote:None of the Africans are in sub-12:50 shape
right now
Mo is not even in sub-13 shape. Not since a long time ago.
Just hit the bell in 12 minutes and there will be no Mo. Alamirew and Gebrhiwet can do that in their sleep. If they do, one of them will win. If they don't, both will lose. It's that simple.
All of us in here have probably raced many races. And we know that running in a race is pretty simple as far strategy goes? Just get to the finish first by running faster for the whole distance than the other runners in this race.
Sure it's easy to see that if they hit the bell at 12 that might severely stress Farah, but they know it will severely stress or even break them too! That's why they don't. How often can any of us run our pr on demand?
Give the lad a break. He doesn't turn 12 until later on this year, it's hardly a shock his tactical sense isn't quite there yet.
Bad Wigins wrote:
I almost think the Brits greased their palms a bit to ensure a slow pace. They gamble on track over there.
We're quite aware after you constant postings about how the olympic 5k & 10k was "fixed"
Alameriw has had real difficulty kicking when it is a fast pace and we know Mo has closed in 53 when the bell was at 12 flat.
RunWild wrote:
Mo has closed in 53 when the bell was at 12 flat.
Again, I repeat - he can no longer hit the bell at 12 flat.
the ethiopians dont have it anymore
they can bust out a bunch of 12-45s in paris when theres no drug testing
but thats the only time they can do it
same problem with bekele
he did it after deagu in 2011
Bad Wigins wrote:
RunWild wrote:Mo has closed in 53 when the bell was at 12 flat.
Again, I repeat - he can no longer hit the bell at 12 flat.
That is what they call "proof by assertion."
inductive reasoning. He hasn't done it since 2011, therefore he most likely can't. He has returned to his pre-NOPer form of 13.0x season bests.