WTF: Did Dwight Stones Just Screw Up the NCAA Team Title on ESPNU?

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  • explain it differently
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 6:07pm CDT
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    Heading into the 4X400 Dwight Stones on the ESPNU broadcast said that A&M was 9 points ahead of Arkanasas.

    Then he thought A&M dropped the baton and was out of the race and he said, "If Arkansas wins the race they will win the NCAA title."

    Then he realized A&M had not dropped out they had picked up the baton and would get 1 point for finishing last.

    He then said, "Arkansas needs to win to tie A&M".

    (All of this would be correct if his information was correct).

    Meanwhile Florida and Arkansas were battling up front. Florida pulled away for the win and that was that. Texas A&M National Champions.

    Except there is one problem with all this. FLORIDA not Arkansas was 9 points behind A&M heading into the 4X400.

    So they were the ones who had to win to tie A&M and that's exactly what happened.

    Unbelievable. How do you screw up the two teams? Don't that have statisticians helping out?

    Did anyone hear them make a correction? I just saw the scores go up on the screen and was like WTF. Went online and in 30 seconds figured out what was going on.
  • Schoolie
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 6:11pm CDT
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    He didn't say that. Get your hearing checked.
  • Jamestown
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 6:20pm CDT
    re: Schoolie
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    Dwight Stones did say that. I am usually a Dwight Stones fan but they really screwed this Men's team title up big time.
  • Listener
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 6:22pm CDT
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    Yes, Dwight Stones did say that! He totally screwed up the broadcast. Imagine this happening in a "real" sport that the networks cover. Never...
  • explain it differently
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 6:27pm CDT
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    Glad to see I wasn't hearing things.

    Think about how improbable it was for Florida and A&M to tie. A&M has to get last and Florida has to win. This if for the NCAA title.

    And all of America doesn't know about it.
  • Gainesville/Miami guy
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 6:29pm CDT
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    As I said on another thread, this is two years in a row. Last year Tony McQuay anchored the Gators winning 4x4 and all Louis Johnson did was congratulate the 4x4 guys for winning thevrelay. He had no clue they had won the NCAA Championships. Just like this year. And both years they never talked about the Gators having a shot. A&M, Arkansas and Oregon all were mentioned often but not Florida. Are they all STUPID? Florida had lots of potential points on the last day with both relays and Craddock in the TJ and Lovett in the HH. Don't their stat guys have a clue either?
  • Camazotz
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 6:30pm CDT
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    explain it differently wrote:

    And all of America doesn't know about it.

    But look on the bright side: almost all of America doesn't care either.
  • Sssss
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 6:37pm CDT
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    Camazotz wrote:

    explain it differently wrote:

    And all of America doesn't know about it.

    But look on the bright side: almost all of America doesn't care either.


    So that's an excuse for the Mouth that Bores and Rawson to mail it in? These guys screwed it up all day long, making error after error.
  • Turrible
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:05pm CDT
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    Sssss wrote:

    These guys screwed it up all day long, making error after error.

    Please list three other than the one in this thread title. Thanks!
  • lifkin
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:07pm CDT
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    Stone messed up. Confused me when he said Arkansas need to win then I see Florida tie. dud
  • Gainesville/Miami guy
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:08pm CDT
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    I don't understand this message board. There are 48 comments about the spelling of Dwayne Wade's name and just a few, mostly by me, on the awful TV reporting on the NCAA Track Championship (trying to get some attention on this MONUMENTAL SCREW-UP). Dwight Stones, Larry Rawson, Louis Johnson and their whole support staff messed up hugely for the second straight year. Wouldn't you think that after screwing up on Florida last year they might want to avoid doing so again? How could they all be unaware of all the potential points the Gators had today with both relays and Craddock and Lovett - all favorites for at least the top three in their events? Truly bush league.
  • jsquire
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:10pm CDT
    re: Turrible
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    Turrible wrote:

    Sssss wrote:

    These guys screwed it up all day long, making error after error.

    Please list three other than the one in this thread title. Thanks!

    1. Stones said Friday and Kesselring both scored in the 1500. They were dead last and second to last. He didn't see Kesselring fall right in front of him and failed to notice Friday running last for most of the race.

    2. Neither realized that it clinched the title for Kansas. They said that Daniels needed to score big points in the 200.

    3. They didn't say squat about Oregon's 4x100 damn near running out of the zone in the final exchange. They said there was a bad exchange but didn't say anything about the possibility of a DQ.
  • Dan Lounsbury
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:15pm CDT
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    jsquire wrote:


    3. They didn't say squat about Oregon's 4x100 damn near running out of the zone in the final exchange. They said there was a bad exchange but didn't say anything about the possibility of a DQ.

    That's not an error, you dolt.
  • Irony Mann
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:16pm CDT
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    Gainesville/Miami guy wrote:

    ... (trying to get some attention on this MONUMENTAL SCREW-UP). Dwight Stones, Larry Rawson, Louis Johnson ....

    Oh, the irony!
  • jsquire
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:22pm CDT
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    Dan Lounsbury wrote:

    jsquire wrote:


    3. They didn't say squat about Oregon's 4x100 damn near running out of the zone in the final exchange. They said there was a bad exchange but didn't say anything about the possibility of a DQ.

    That's not an error, you dolt.
    3. Rawson said Coburn chose Oregon for college. There you go, jackass.
  • ColoMaster
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:38pm CDT
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    jsquire wrote:

    3. They didn't say squat about Oregon's 4x100 damn near running out of the zone in the final exchange. They said there was a bad exchange but didn't say anything about the possibility of a DQ.

    That's not an error, you dolt.[/quote]3. Rawson said Coburn chose Oregon for college. There you go, jackass.[/quote]

    And he almost said she went to Eugene but caught himself, couldn't come up with Boulder and went into her training at altitude.
    Nothing like live TV!
  • helping hand
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:40pm CDT
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    4. Pretty sure I heard Rawson say in the opening lap of the mens 5000 that Lalang trained at altitude in Flagstaff. There was a pause of silence, and then Stones stated it correctly that Estrada ran at altitude at NAU in Flagstaff and Lalang was at U of A. (Or something like that.)
  • Gainesville/Miami guy
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 7:47pm CDT
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    List three? For two hours they never mentioned Florida in the team race. So each time they discussed the team race and didn't mention Florida is an error. So countless errors besides the ones others have pointed out.

    Here is a contrast. In the '76 Olympics Hasely Crawford, in lane 1 - thus NOT a favorite - won the race. The announcer for ABC was Keith Jackson, the long-time college football guy. Not a supposed Track expert like Stones, Rawson and Johnson. Keith Jackson called it perfectly. A ten second race won by a long shot and he nailed the call. Knew who he was. A professional who had done his homework. These guys had two hours,, not ten seconds, and they had no clue.
  • pac12running
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 8:02pm CDT
    re: Gainesville/Miami guy
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    Yes, heard the same errors. And at one point one of the announcers said Arkansas instead of Arizona when talking about Lalang. Also, said Gardner was running the "longest" leg of the relay--the straightaway. Hmmm...
  • Ssssss
    6 years ago 06/08/2013 8:08pm CDT
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    Turrible wrote:

    Sssss wrote:

    These guys screwed it up all day long, making error after error.

    Please list three other than the one in this thread title. Thanks!


    Nice try...I'm not gonna let a troll force me to sit through 2 hours of pablum again just to win an Internet pissing match. Just for kicks though, how bout the fact that Stones originally called both Oregon 1500 winners as having scored as Rawson mumbled unintelligibly?

    No self respecting football fan would suffer through such unprofessional crap without calling it as it is, and I won't do any differently here. And spare me the "you couldn't do better" angle...I've recently seen many a decent young reporter who is professional try much harder than those two jokers who mailed it in today.

    The bottom line is that anyone who is OK with the way American Track and Field is produced on TV is an idiot or a hater. Stones himself in his younger days railed on about how things weren't done right, but his ethics changed when it came time to leave the spotlight and get a real job. Now he takes his orders from an anonymous producer and asks "how high" when bad TV says "jump!"

    There's irony for you.