utter crap pacing
canova was absolutely right about paying peanuts for pacers ( when you get ... ) when in ole days you splashed out $1000s for a tanui or a noah
58s crap opener was worst i've ever seen - she deserves not just no pay, but jail for fraud as a "pacer"
aregawi finished clocked 3'17 ( 4'06+ pace ) maybe i'd reckon she'd get a 4'03/4'04 if she did exceptional
her last lap was 58+ !!!
she is in 3'54 maybe 3'53 shape currently & rubbish spent on pacers spoiled it for us today...
rojo wrote: I am SO SICK of seeing the bad rabbits. I blame meet management. I shoud start a consulting service. It's not hard. You need someone standing at 100m and 200m to help them.
You can get a collegiate hack out there and have them run 300.
Awful.
As for the 1,500. Swede is unbeatable right now.
glad someone else sees the utter rubbish were seeing now for pacers
from what I've seen this year, the women are worse than the men.
Some of the better pacing I've seen is from other pros who are just helping out their teammates while getting in some race pace work for part of the race. example being nike guys shooting for 13:14.9 and pappas at prefontaine
Agreed good sir! Where is the female version of Matt Sherer?? He is usually within a sec at 400 and if the field goes with him they are within a sec at 800!
never seen anything like that, ahead by 7 seconds at one point. and then when she slowed down and led them some, she ultimately got engulfed by the pack and tripped someone trying to drop out. Aregawi is very strong. hmm.
until today, almeerewoo had lost all the kick that got him 7'27i nearly 2.5y ago
( look up iaaf tables - i'm sure they quote 7'24/7'25 outdoors )
he got it back today
soi got one last week
koech may get one back, but he looks unfit
After the race Aregawi said she was glad that the race turned out the way it did. She is not interested in fast times right now, but rather to get experience from championship style races (something she clearly lacked last year).
eh ?
never in non-chinese history has a runner run 4-flat with a sub-60 finish, let alone a 58+ !!!
the ethiopian is in 3'54 perhaps even 3'53 shape
you don't need hypothetical numbers to figure this out, just a brain
i reckon she is currently worth
54.0 / 1'56.6 ->
3'53.3 !!!
5'20.0
8'18.8
14'30.9
30'49.3
ignore distances over about 2k as she's training for 1500 ( & can run a damn quick 800 off it - medal contention 800 ability )
she shoud have a go at sonia's 2k wr - she shoud demolish it as you shoud be good for 2k off 1500 & fade much, if at all
still way behind 3:50 and 8:06.
this is worse than jail wrote:
not nearly as atrocious as this pacemaking: 51.5 and 1:47.4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-W7B483K8Jimmy Robinson for the electric chair Ventolin?
Who is Jimmy Robinson?
Agree the first 200m was run in something like 28
You would do better to get a 2:05 runner who is not capable of running under 6o and telling them to run flat out
None of those girls is going under 3:55 though
Don't know if any of you saw the pacing for the 1500m at Prefontaine last week, but Lea Wallace did a phenomenal job. I mean, she was spot on at the TWO HUNDRED. You never see that in women's pacers. The meet asked for 2:07, and she gave them 2:07, with a 63mid first lap.
Its actually pretty hilarious if you watch the race replay, because Tim Hutchings was unsure of her ability going in, but then had a very changed mind afterwards, giving all sorts of credit to her. Check it out:
http://preclassic.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=120&do=videos&video_id=90602
Hopefully she'll get more opportunities like this in Europe and set up some great races.
ukathleticscoach wrote:None of those girls is going under 3:55 though
you really don't have much of a clue
this ethiopian is likely very similar to the shape that ivan was in '88, although the ethiopian is not a 3k runner
go look her up
the ethiopian is even running a 800 in hengelo today
even accounting for fatigue of rome, expect her to go well below 2'00
He's been quiet lately...