If it was already announced I missed it, but they are currently listed in both the 1500/5000:
I wonder if this is to pace Ritz again, or just to get in a good solid "tempo" type effort. Things could get lightly interesting as Solinsky and Levins are also in the 5000 and might make Galen/Mo work a little harder than they intend to.
this will not happen. i will be surprised to see Galen race at oxy at all. or he will race oxy and duck out of pre.
i know im a dick, the original wrote:
this will not happen. i will be surprised to see Galen race at oxy at all. or he will race oxy and duck out of pre.
Maybe.
However past history suggests it may well occur as it happened last year, with Galen and Mo basically in the race to guarantee 13:15 pace for Dathan, though Galen pulled out after about 4k. Mo Farah went on to finish, running like 13:12 or something...just enough to outkick whoever was racing against him.
I cannot recall, however, if either Galen or Mo ran at Pre.
LM wrote:
i know im a dick, the original wrote:this will not happen. i will be surprised to see Galen race at oxy at all. or he will race oxy and duck out of pre.
Maybe.
However past history suggests it may well occur as it happened last year, with Galen and Mo basically in the race to guarantee 13:15 pace for Dathan, though Galen pulled out after about 4k. Mo Farah went on to finish, running like 13:12 or something...just enough to outkick whoever was racing against him.
I cannot recall, however, if either Galen or Mo ran at Pre.
They both ran at pre last year.
Rupp ran 3:34 at Oxy, then ran the first 4k of the 5000, and then ran 12:58 at Pre. Farah ran 3:34, 13:12, then 12:56 at Pre.
LM wrote:
i know im a dick, the original wrote:this will not happen. i will be surprised to see Galen race at oxy at all. or he will race oxy and duck out of pre.
Maybe.
However past history suggests it may well occur as it happened last year, with Galen and Mo basically in the race to guarantee 13:15 pace for Dathan, though Galen pulled out after about 4k. Mo Farah went on to finish, running like 13:12 or something...just enough to outkick whoever was racing against him.
I cannot recall, however, if either Galen or Mo ran at Pre.
I bet Rupp just runs 1500M. The fact that he meant to run the 800M at the Twilight tells me he wants to race at a lower distance. He will assuredly run 5000M at Pre and obviously more later in the Diamond league and at Worlds, therefore I don't see why he would run the 5000M at Oxy.
That year (was it last year?) Mo did an impressive double showing 1500m speed and 5k endurance, as did Galen (with regards to 1500m speed, though not as impressive 5k endurance). They both later went on to race the 5k at the Pre Classic in which both dipped under 13 minutes. That was a beautiful exciting race, with the two Kenyans, Thomas Longosiwa (the eventual bronze medalist at the olympics) and compatriot Isaiah Koech making a go for it with an early relatively long kick, and with Mo eventually kickin it in in very impressive fashion. The way Mo kicked that race, as well as his Preclassic fast 10k the year prior to that, was incredible, just having another gear and such form and finesse and grace, that really distinguished him as the dominant distance runner of the season/s. Now there is rumour this year in the Pre Classic 5k pacemakers will take it out at a pace faster than last year's outdoor season best at the Paris Diamond League?
ThuMbs_uP wrote:
That year (was it last year?) Mo did an impressive double showing 1500m speed and 5k endurance, as did Galen (with regards to 1500m speed, though not as impressive 5k endurance). They both later went on to race the 5k at the Pre Classic in which both dipped under 13 minutes. That was a beautiful exciting race, with the two Kenyans, Thomas Longosiwa (the eventual bronze medalist at the olympics) and compatriot Isaiah Koech making a go for it with an early relatively long kick, and with Mo eventually kickin it in in very impressive fashion. The way Mo kicked that race, as well as his Preclassic fast 10k the year prior to that, was incredible, just having another gear and such form and finesse and grace, that really distinguished him as the dominant distance runner of the season/s. Now there is rumour this year in the Pre Classic 5k pacemakers will take it out at a pace faster than last year's outdoor season best at the Paris Diamond League?
Yea I've heard that they are allegedly going out at 12:50 pace. Can't compare that to Paris though as I don't remember what the pacers were assigned there....I just know everybody went smoking fast.
And yea, that meet you were describing was indeed last year's Oxy meet, and given that it is again a major year (Oly/WC) it's reasonable to expect that Rupp and Farah will do things similar to last year.
No doubt that Mo was on a different level last year, and I have to admit I'm quite curious to see where his speed will be now, especially with some light focus on the road races. I'm also stoked to watch Galen, as so far he does seem noticeably better early than last year!
Last year they did not double. I don't remember if they originally were entered in the 5000, but Mo and Galen ran just the 1500. I would expect the same this year, but there's some big time competition.
coach d wrote:
Last year they did not double. I don't remember if they originally were entered in the 5000, but Mo and Galen ran just the 1500. I would expect the same this year, but there's some big time competition.
WRONG COACH DICKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.flotrack.org/article/12502-RESULTS-2012-USATF-Oxy-High-Performance-Meetcoach d was right in saying that Rupp and Mo weren't originally entered in the 5k last year. I'm guessing they didn't officially enter the event because they knew they were only pacing Ritz, which leads me to believe they'll both run the entire thing this year since they are officially entered
The real results are here and Galen did not double:
coach d wrote:
The real results are here and Galen did not double:
http://flashwest.com/12Meets/12HP/
If you watch the video, you'll see that Galen ran through ~4k
coach d wrote:
Last year they did not double. I don't remember if they originally were entered in the 5000, but Mo and Galen ran just the 1500. I would expect the same this year, but there's some big time competition.
Last year Farah won the 1500 at Oxy in 3:34, then came back to win the 5k in 13:12 after pacing Ritz most of the way. Rupp also ran 3:34, then helped pace Ritz in the 5k, dropping out at 4k. But don't take my word for it:
http://www.letsrun.com/2012/oxymen-0519.phpcoach d wrote:
The real results are here and Galen did not double:
http://flashwest.com/12Meets/12HP/
Yea, you didn't read what I said, which is that Galen went through 4k and Farah won in 13:12. They were not originally entered, which is probably why Rupp doesn't show, even as a DNF. They just kinda hopped in spur the moment and paced.
Here is the video if you want to watch yourself:
http://www.runnerspace.com/video.php?video_id=67699While we are on the topic, what you all got for predictions.
I'm going to say 3:32 for Rupp, given that he improved over the course of last year, as well as his notably stronger results in indoor this year. I'm incline to say the same for Farah, but he MAY not be as sharp given that he has had some focus on longer road races. I expect a similar time from Farah, but I'm going to take a risk and say Rupp nicks him at the end in the 1500.
I don't think anybody will hammer the 5000, but assuming both guys finish I think Farah/Rupp will be 1-2 in around 13:10 or so, with Solinsky a few seconds back due to a slightly slower last lap, as Sol ran 13:23 at Payton off of a conservative start, and has had a few more weeks to keep sharpening. I expect Dathan to get under the standard as well.
Levins is a wildcard, especially if the rumor at him not training with the rest of the guys in Utah is correct. He clearly has the ability to also grab the A, but hopefully it isn't some injury problem as he has done well till now with avoiding that.
Webb is another who knows what to expect guy, and while he wasn't horrible at Payton he didn't impress. Same with Puskedra at Oregon, seemingly struggling to run 8:00 3k.
Don't know too much about the rest of the guys.
Will this be the year Galen overtakes Mo? I think so. He could have beaten him at the Olympics last year if he went earlier. I think Rupp can be #1 in the world this year at 5000/10,000 with Mo #2.
coach d wrote:
The real results are here and Galen did not double:
http://flashwest.com/12Meets/12HP/
Coach D, just stop posting. Everyone who follows the sport knows they doubled. The video proves they did, as did every article about it. You're such an F'tard.
Galen is entered in the 5k just to get in Solinsky's head.
just sayin wrote:
Galen is entered in the 5k just to get in Solinsky's head.