3:38 doesn't seem that fast. Was that from a big kick or an early gap or what?
3:38 doesn't seem that fast. Was that from a big kick or an early gap or what?
I'd say for a conference championships 1500 it's not all that slow
I think Lawi will be a great 10k guy one day.
Ouch. Tough double.
Uhmmmm wrote:
Ouch. Tough double.
Apparently not. 3 or 4 second gap in the 1500m and like 30+ seconds in the 10k.
Well done Lalang. Not quite as good as the Cheseret 10k/5k/1500 Pac 10 triple
spade detector wrote:
Well done Lalang. Not quite as good as the Cheseret 10k/5k/1500 Pac 10 triple
Don't speak too soon. He's entered in the 5000m, it just hasn't been run yet or the results haven't been posted yet
Well he didn't end up running it. And when Cheserek won his triple, he had to beat a couple of fellows named Rupp and Araia
He probably realized how weak the pac12 competition is and decided it wasn't worth the effort. Seriously what happened to the pac12? What happened to the milers and distance guys? A guy shouldn't be able to pull of the 1500-10k double with ease (or at all).
spade detector wrote:
Well he didn't end up running it. And when Cheserek won his triple, he had to beat a couple of fellows named Rupp and Araia
Sorry, Cheseret - I've spent too much time reading that Dream Mile thread.
jwjwj wrote:
3:38 doesn't seem that fast. Was that from a big kick or an early gap or what?
I think just the opposite.
I may start a separate thread on this just so this performance gets it's due as to me his 1500 run was INCREDIBLE.
3:38 with no rabbits in a conference meet after running the 10k already? Are you serious. It's INCREDIBLE. He won by 3+ seconds.
Did anyone see it?
Did he just hammer it from thefront - did no one go with thim?
ppd wrote:
He probably realized how weak the pac12 competition is and decided it wasn't worth the effort. Seriously what happened to the pac12? What happened to the milers and distance guys? A guy shouldn't be able to pull of the 1500-10k double with ease (or at all).
I think the 8th best Pac 12 guy going into today had run 3:41, what are you talking about? He ran away from the gun. Also his 10k was solo in 75 degree weather before the sun had gone down. Not too bad
rojo wrote:
jwjwj wrote:3:38 doesn't seem that fast. Was that from a big kick or an early gap or what?
I think just the opposite.
I may start a separate thread on this just so this performance gets it's due as to me his 1500 run was INCREDIBLE.
3:38 with no rabbits in a conference meet after running the 10k already? Are you serious. It's INCREDIBLE. He won by 3+ seconds.
Did anyone see it?
Did he just hammer it from thefront - did no one go with thim?
No, you don't think the opposite because I never said what you're opposing.
The point wasn't about Lalang's time, victory, or circumstances. The point was that he won by several seconds. Can no one in the Pac12 run a 3:38 anymore? Ditto for the 10k.
jwjwj wrote:
The point wasn't about Lalang's time, victory, or circumstances. The point was that he won by several seconds.
Huh?? No it wasn't... you literally said "3:38 isn't that fast." When in fact it is quite fast.
Lawi Lalang just hammered the Pac-12 final from gun to tape. Lalang took out the first 400m in 57 seconds. He had about a 12 meter lead at 800m and came through there at 1:57. He extended his lead during the third lap to about 20 meters. After he had the race won, he cruised the last 50 meters of the race and let the field close the gap a little bit. A very impressive win in the 10,000 and 1500 for Lawi.
crazy raisin wrote:
jwjwj wrote:The point wasn't about Lalang's time, victory, or circumstances. The point was that he won by several seconds.
Huh?? No it wasn't... you literally said "3:38 isn't that fast." When in fact it is quite fast.
I'm the person that said it so I know what the point was. And that's not what I literally said. There was an entire sentence after that one. Again, 3:38 is not that fast that Lalang should have won by so much.
I saw the race. Lawi let up in the last 50 meters. He could have run 3:36 easily. He put the field away with his aggressive 1:57 first 800 meters. And then hammering the third lap. Lawi toyed with this group of 3:42 kids.
jwjwj wrote:
crazy raisin wrote:Huh?? No it wasn't... you literally said "3:38 isn't that fast." When in fact it is quite fast.
I'm the person that said it so I know what the point was. And that's not what I literally said. There was an entire sentence after that one. Again, 3:38 is not that fast that Lalang should have won by so much.
Well, actually, no. That isn't how it works. You see, once you commit certain words to print you really are not in charge of what they mean.
For example, if I say that "hedgehogs are cuddly" and then protest when someone points out that they are prickly I cannot then legitimately protest that "I'm the person that said it so I know that the sentence meant, 'I like hot fudge sundaes'."
You're statement that "3:38 doesn't seem that fast" expressed something that others disagree with. What your own private thoughts were at the moment you were typing those words is not relevant.
I think you do not fully understand championship racing, team competition, and learning how to use your resources. If you are a coach of a very good college runner (3:57 miler) would you have him chase Lalang so that he can use up his best race to get no more than second (and risk blowing up and getting nothing) when he can save himself a bit and get the same placing with higher probability? Then you are burnt up a bit with diminished chances for the next two rounds to what purpose? Johnson drew right conclusions about this race.
26mi235 wrote:
I think you do not fully understand championship racing, team competition, and learning how to use your resources. If you are a coach of a very good college runner (3:57 miler) would you have him chase Lalang so that he can use up his best race to get no more than second (and risk blowing up and getting nothing) when he can save himself a bit and get the same placing with higher probability? Then you are burnt up a bit with diminished chances for the next two rounds to what purpose? Johnson drew right conclusions about this race.
This is weak.