Bump. Can anyone confirm? That's pretty ridiculous at 4500 feet.
Bump. Can anyone confirm? That's pretty ridiculous at 4500 feet.
spade detector wrote:
Bump. Can anyone confirm? That's pretty ridiculous at 4500 feet.
What is the altitude conversion on this? Provo is at 4500 feet. Saarel is on a roll!
Results? Link? Splits?
The results aren't posted on the event website yet, but it was tweeted out by a couple different individuals who are at the meet.
Does 4500 feet really negatively affect a 3200m run? I know it sounds stupid to ask, but I've had some of my best runs at high altitudes. In fact, Ive only felt great, going from sea level to high altitude and running hard on the same day. Maybe just me?
8:49 at 4500 feet converts to 8:37 at sea level. Dude is a beast for sure.
Converts to approximately 8 :37.35 at sea level*
*Using the NCAA converter for a 3000m race
Predicted 2 M Finish Times by Altitude
Elevation Time min/km min/mile
sea level 8:44.7 2:43.0 4:22.4
1000 ft (305 m) 8:45.8 2:43.4 4:22.9
2000 ft (610 m) 8:46.9 2:43.7 4:23.4
3000 ft (914 m) 8:48.0 2:44.0 4:24.0
4000 ft (1219 m)8:49.0 2:44.4 4:24.5
5000 ft (1524 m)8:50.1 2:44.7 4:25.1
6000 ft (1829 m)8:51.2 2:45.0 4:25.6
7000 ft (2134 m)8:52.3 2:45.4 4:26.1
8000 ft (2438 m)8:53.4 2:45.7 4:26.7
9000 ft (2743 m)8:54.4 2:46.0 4:27.2
10000 ft (3048 m)8:55.5 2:46.4 4:27.8
Calculations are based on data from Daniels' Running Formula by Jack Daniels PhD.
Note: Predicted finish times assume the runner is already acclimatized to the alitude.
For Flagstaff, the NCAA conversion is about 20 seconds for the 3k right? Let's just say at 4500ft, it would be a 15 second conversion for an non-acclimated runner. So that woul be 8:34 at sea level at best.
Huh, not too far off then. Wow this kid is amazing.
Yeah it does, I've run at exactly that elevation and you definitely notice the slight increase in labor of breath.
He lives in Park City and was surely coming down in altitude.
joecrunner wrote:
Predicted 2 M Finish Times by Altitude
Elevation Time min/km min/mile
sea level 8:44.7 2:43.0 4:22.4
1000 ft (305 m) 8:45.8 2:43.4 4:22.9
2000 ft (610 m) 8:46.9 2:43.7 4:23.4
3000 ft (914 m) 8:48.0 2:44.0 4:24.0
4000 ft (1219 m)8:49.0 2:44.4 4:24.5
5000 ft (1524 m)8:50.1 2:44.7 4:25.1
6000 ft (1829 m)8:51.2 2:45.0 4:25.6
7000 ft (2134 m)8:52.3 2:45.4 4:26.1
8000 ft (2438 m)8:53.4 2:45.7 4:26.7
9000 ft (2743 m)8:54.4 2:46.0 4:27.2
10000 ft (3048 m)8:55.5 2:46.4 4:27.8
Calculations are based on data from Daniels' Running Formula by Jack Daniels PhD.
Note: Predicted finish times assume the runner is already acclimatized to the alitude.
For Flagstaff, the NCAA conversion is about 20 seconds for the 3k right? Let's just say at 4500ft, it would be a 15 second conversion for an non-acclimated runner. So that woul be 8:34 at sea level at best.
WTF?!?! I pulled that number out of my a$$ as a total mocking of this whole conversion obsession. You mean it's actually accurate?!?!
Ventolin^3. wrote:
8:49 at 4500 feet converts to 8:37 at sea level. Dude is a beast for sure.
Very good point. Park City is listed around 7000ft from what I can find.
2 miles is too short to have a massive deficit from running at altitude. This result is probably about the same as his 8:45 at sea level. Also, keep in mind that BYU is considered to have one of the fastest tracks around.
So then it would probably be worth 8:45 like others are saying.
It's easier for him to run at 4500 than it is for me since he lives at 7000 feet. However, that's still pretty crazy. I don't know that it's WORTH a sub 8:40, but I certainly think he is capable of a sub 8:40.
FWIW: Brent Vaughn ran 9:06 in Denver and 8:45 at sea level
Brett Schoolmester ran 9:13 in Denver and 8:48 at sea level
Raptured wrote:
2 miles is too short to have a massive deficit from running at altitude. This result is probably about the same as his 8:45 at sea level. Also, keep in mind that BYU is considered to have one of the fastest tracks around.
I difference between altitude and sea level wouldn't be "massive" for 2 miles, but it's certainly more than 4 seconds.
Question has already been answered above, but 10-12 seconds is a reasonable conversion.
If you are born and raised at altitude, 4500 ft isn't too significant; however, that is a great time at sea level.