The world record would be 1:46
The world record would be 1:46
Facts of life wrote:
The world record would be 1:46
C'mon dude, that is a bit fast. By my math, 1:46 would mean they would have to average 4:02.57 per mile.
Cmon dude wrote:
Facts of life wrote:The world record would be 1:46
C'mon dude, that is a bit fast. By my math, 1:46 would mean they would have to average 4:02.57 per mile.
I'm just stating the facts. Don't shoot the messenger
Facts of life wrote:
Cmon dude wrote:C'mon dude, that is a bit fast. By my math, 1:46 would mean they would have to average 4:02.57 per mile.
I'm just stating the facts. Don't shoot the messenger
Sorry, I should not have called you a dude in my earlier posting because you are really a girl, in that you have no concept of math. I'm just stating the facts.
Cmon dude wrote:
Facts of life wrote:I'm just stating the facts. Don't shoot the messenger
Sorry, I should not have called you a dude in my earlier posting because you are really a girl, in that you have no concept of math. I'm just stating the facts.
Actually the problem is that you have no concept of elite performance
4:02 does.seem fast. I would think honestly closer to the 4:40 current WR pace, maybe like 4:25. We're talking 26 of these. Might not be intervals, but psychologically its ridiculously tough to do 26 hard miles in a day. 2:55 I says.
NJ Possible wrote:
... but psychologically its ridiculously tough to do 26 hard miles in a day. 2:55 I says.
I was on a 24 hour relay team back in the '70s on which Clint Mericle of Corpus Cristi ran between 4:20 and 4:30 for somewhere around 30 miles, and he was a 2:25 marathoner at the time, so not world class by any means. I'd guess that someone capable of a 2:04 marathon could run a whole bunch of 4:10s with 45 minutes recovery. Hell, Clint did his on pretty much nothing but Pop Tarts and beer. So, my guess is 1:49:10.
DNF
There's only 24 hrs in a day.
N cv wrote:
DNF
There's only 24 hrs in a day.
Re-read the rules
It wouldn't be too much faster than the current record. Maybe 1:55 at best.
Someone should be able to average between 4:10 and 4:15 without much trouble.
9am - 8 x mile in 4:10 with whatever recovery they want
4pm - 8 by mile in 4:10 with whatever recovery they want
10pm 4 by mile in 4:15-4:20
next day
6 by mile in 4:10
I mean, couldn't Rupp or Mo or Tadesse or someone do this? Doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility
inhouse wrote:
NJ Possible wrote:... but psychologically its ridiculously tough to do 26 hard miles in a day. 2:55 I says.
I was on a 24 hour relay team back in the '70s on which Clint Mericle of Corpus Cristi ran between 4:20 and 4:30 for somewhere around 30 miles, and he was a 2:25 marathoner at the time, so not world class by any means. I'd guess that someone capable of a 2:04 marathon could run a whole bunch of 4:10s with 45 minutes recovery. Hell, Clint did his on pretty much nothing but Pop Tarts and beer. So, my guess is 1:49:10.
I was 2:25 marathoner and find running 30 miles between 4:20 and 4:30 very hard to believe. I remember reading about a 24-hour relay (and the record at the time) between a group of marathoners and a group of milers. Mericle, in fact, may have run at that one. I remember a Scoby (maybe Brent) and can't recall the other runners. Some were fairly well-known. Some of the runners, including Scoby, were running some pretty fast early miles. A few managed to continue running fast miles (in the 4:20s and 4:30s) midway through the relay. Near the end they the fastest of the lot were beginning to run 4:40s and 4:50s. A 2:25 marathoner with good speed could run a number between 4:20 and 4:30 but those are not that easy and to run 30 over a 24-hour time span ... no way.
Kyle Schmidt wrote:
It wouldn't be too much faster than the current record. Maybe 1:55 at best.
Considering there are guys who can run 13 miles with no rest at basically that pace don't you think that given a 24 hour window with recoveries they could do much better than that?
areusure? wrote:
I have numerous female friends who are mechanical engineers and know math well.
Liar, they are mechanical engineers so that naturally suck at math.
The best way to approach this is breaking the distance up into 3 or 4 sessions with several hours recovery between sessions and no more than 15 minutes beween reps. Do the rules say if runners would be provided with recovery essentials (food, drink, PT, rest stations, etc..)?
mgm wrote:
The best way to approach this is breaking the distance up into 3 or 4 sessions with several hours recovery between sessions and no more than 15 minutes beween reps. Do the rules say if runners would be provided with recovery essentials (food, drink, PT, rest stations, etc..)?
Makes sense and may be the only way possible to do them 4:20 or better. 2 sets of five 4:20 mile repeats and 4 sets of four 4:20 mile repeats.
I don't think it would be that fast considering 26 x mile with 50 minutes recovery is grueling enough in itself.
Set up a formula for how much time is lost for per mile in accordance to how much rest you get, 26.2 miles being a constant. Set the derivative equal to 0 and solve for thw optimization
Logical Man wrote:
Set up a formula for how much time is lost for per mile in accordance to how much rest you get, 26.2 miles being a constant. Set the derivative equal to 0 and solve for thw optimization
You're an idiot...
8-10 years ago, Geb would have destroyed that race.
He was running 4/min mile pace for 5k. and low 26 for 10k? No way he couldn't do 4:02/milex26 over a day.
he ran 58min 1/2 marathons. You dont think he could do that, rest for 12 hours, then do it again (or close)