since their Freshman years, it would be hard to name American who has finished a head of them?
since their Freshman years, it would be hard to name American who has finished a head of them?
Puskedra is the only American to defeat Derrick in XC Champs after frosh year.
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Abbey D'Agostino beat Jordan in xc, indoor 5k, and indoor 3k this year. Last spring, Katie Flood and Emily Infield went 1-2 outdoor 1500. Aisha Praught, from Illinois, was ahead of Jordan in the indoor mile. Emily Infield and Deborah Maier also finished ahead of her in the 3k indoors.
So, there are five in the last two years.
By the way, I think Jordan is great, but other people have done great too.
I believe Hasay has won a total of two indoor individual NCAA titles (1500 and 3000), and that's it. She has never won a track title outdoors. So someone has beaten Hasay in the NCAA Outdoors every year.
coach d,
Foreigners have most of those Outdoor titles...the few to beaten Jordan, not Americans.
I am a big time D1 coach and know.
coach d. wrote:
I am a big time D1 coach and know.
The reason the previous poster brought up his point is because the question was what Americans have beaten Hasay and Derrick not who has beaten them
He never questioned your credentials - just clarifying the original question.
Hasay would have 1 possibly 2 NCAA XC titles if our National Championships, were really for our NATION!!
Derrick would have a giant trophy case for his first place NCAA titles if it wasn't for then invasion of Kenyans to our collegiate system. He ran much faster times on NCAA championship course than Galen Rupp!
To Rupp credit unlike Derrick Rupp would have smoked those Kenyans in those races.
Clarification - wrote:
The reason the previous poster brought up his point is because the question was what Americans have beaten Hasay and Derrick not who has beaten them
He never questioned your credentials - just clarifying the original question.
that was an impersonator of coach d. Although he could have used the space method so it wouldn't have the . at the end if he really wanted to impersonate him well
Why are we excluding freshman year for these two?
Because you would expect more senior athletes to be ahead of then when they are freshman, new on the scene and not that physically mature. When Jordan started as a freshman she was only 17 (briefly).
26mi235 wrote:
Because you would expect more senior athletes to be ahead of then when they are freshman, new on the scene and not that physically mature. When Jordan started as a freshman she was only 17 (briefly).
Physical maturity has nothing to do with it. Wasn't Hasay running fast as a 14 yr old? Furthermore, what is the point of this thread?