Imagine if a in-form Ryan Hall had run London this year...

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  • rojo
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    7 years ago 04/21/2013 9:08am CDT
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    Hall's London PR is 2:06:17 from 2008.

    Everyone knows he loves to run his own pace.

    Could he possibly run a PR by himself- just running his own pace like he loves to do?

    The most race hyped race in history goes out on WR pace. Everyone blows up. Hall passes one, then two, etc.

    Imagine if he mowed down the field doing that. It would have been real interesting at the end.

    Men: Official Results
    1. Tsegaye Kebede ETH 2:06:04
    2. Emmanuel Mutai KEN 2:06:34

    A tiny PR and he's got the victory.

    Totally out of the question??

    #dreambig
  • stepsss
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 9:16am CDT
    re: rojo
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    As much as I would have loved for this to happen, we would undoubtedly hear a whole bunch of "glory be to god", "I felt gods might", and "god is so great" in post-race interviews for WEEKS.
  • Halleluja
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 9:19am CDT
    re: rojo
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    rojo wrote:

    Men: Official Results
    1. Tsegaye Kebede ETH 2:06:04
    2. Emmanuel Mutai KEN 2:06:34

    A tiny PR and he's got the victory.

    Hall is a 2:04 guy. He would have easily won today.
  • rojo
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    7 years ago 04/21/2013 9:20am CDT
    re: Halleluja
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    Halleluja wrote:

    Hall is a 2:04 guy. He would have easily won today.

    No, he's a 2;04 guy with a tail win.

    And by your logic, then how do you explain what happened to all of the 2:03 guys today.
  • Elmore345
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 9:23am CDT
    re: rojo
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    He is soooo overrated! Ryan Hall? Ryan Who more like.
  • Josh Hamilton's Addiction
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 9:23am CDT
    re: rojo
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    Hall loves to run his own pace but the problem with Hall is he frequently believes that he can also run world record pace. He's one of the most delusional runners out there. He surely would have gone out in world record pace and also blown up. After the race he'd say that he felt world record pace was his pace that day but God just didn't want it for him that day.
  • sam sausage
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 9:35am CDT
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    Hall is a shadow of what he was. Now he is contented to just run comfortable pace comfortably behind the leaders and just finish. I have never seen a win-at-all-cost mentality from this guy. He is very gifted but doesn't have the drive that others have.
  • rojo - really?
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 9:43am CDT
    re: rojo
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    guess what? he ISN'T in shape. deal with that because it is the reality of his running career.
  • Byron Hall
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 10:23am CDT
    re: rojo
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    Hall in peak form would have run 2:10 today.
  • Halleluja
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 10:25am CDT
    re: rojo
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    rojo wrote:

    No, he's a 2;04 guy with a tail win.

    Not sure what a "tail win" is but a win is a win.
  • runnerdave
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    7 years ago 04/21/2013 10:29am CDT
    re: rojo
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    Imagine if Ryan Hall went with the other runners and hit world record pace at the half and then even picked it up to be the first human to break 2 hours and then at the finish line Jesus walks out from the crowd and congratulates HIS runner and all 4 Beatles miraculously show up and play some songs with Elvis and then world peace etc. etc.
  • dfgsd
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 10:43am CDT
    re: runnerdave
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    runnerdave wrote:

    Imagine if Ryan Hall went with the other runners and hit world record pace at the half and then even picked it up to be the first human to break 2 hours and then at the finish line Jesus walks out from the crowd and congratulates HIS runner and all 4 Beatles miraculously show up and play some songs with Elvis and then world peace etc. etc.


    That would be pretty cool. I'd take it. Marathoning would be more popular.
  • Wow this is dumb
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    7 years ago 04/21/2013 10:43am CDT
    re: Halleluja
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    Halleluja wrote:

    rojo wrote:

    No, he's a 2;04 guy with a tail win.

    Not sure what a "tail win" is but a win is a win.



    I think that's when you back across the line first, butt-first
  • Rubis
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 10:46am CDT
    re: rojo
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    Rojo- I understand your logic, but why go there? Hall hasn't run a good marathon in a while now, and I'm not sure it's fair to him or the other Americans (Hartmann) to hypothesize on Hall pr'ing right now, much less winning a major. No, it wouldn't be totally out of the question, but highly unlikely to materialize. Don't get me wrong, because I like Hall, but I don't see him being the one to break through and legitimately compete with the east Africans.
  • one plus one
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 10:57am CDT
    re: rojo
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    Not out of the question at all. It is one of the few times where someone who races like Hall could capitalize. Generally running alone in a major race, or with only Jesus' footsteps silently falling next to you, is indicative of someone who doesn't understand the laws of physics. Today that sort of ignoramus could have had his day.

    Love Ryan Hall, hope he gets healthy, and stops running "his race" in majors and starts running "the race" instead.
  • ukathleticscoach
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    7 years ago 04/21/2013 11:02am CDT
    re: rojo
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    No chance

    All those top runners are not running slow for no reason other than the fast early pace
  • reported earlier
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 11:08am CDT
    re: rojo
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    rojo wrote:

    And by your logic, then how do you explain what happened to all of the 2:03 guys today.

    Whatever changed in the PED testing must be working.
  • Overmyhead
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 11:10am CDT
    re: ukathleticscoach
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    Lol that's Rojo's point. Everyone blew up, and Hall, if running his own race, would've caught a lot of the people who were paying the price of a fast start.
  • ben and jerry's for me
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 11:18am CDT
    re: Rubis
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    Rubis wrote:

    Rojo- I understand your logic, but why go there? Hall hasn't run a good marathon in a while now, and I'm not sure it's fair to him or the other Americans (Hartmann) to hypothesize on Hall pr'ing right now, much less winning a major. No, it wouldn't be totally out of the question, but highly unlikely to materialize. Don't get me wrong, because I like Hall, but I don't see him being the one to break through and legitimately compete with the east Africans.

    got to go with this answer. he isn't racing and hasn't raced well for a while.
  • grimatongueworm
    7 years ago 04/21/2013 11:24am CDT
    re: rojo
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    rojo wrote:
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    Totally out of the question??

    #dreambig

    I don't know. Hall loves to run up front. I'm not sure he has the discipline to back off in the first half and stick to his race plan. I see him cratering like the front runners did.