Suspect #2s dad says whole thing is 'inside job' and 'Hell Will Break Loose' if son is killed

has to be said wrote:

muslim logic

The uncle is Muslim, and he called his nephews "losers".

The father is just either an idiot or an a$$hole.

anyone see the bourne legacy with the part where the doctor kills awhole bunch of people and then himself....its drugs

Yes, the uncle wants his nephew brought to justice. He was so angry about what the two did.

The father is a confused individual. He refuses to believe the video evidence. He is irrational.

The uncle accepts his nephews are a lost cause.

Does the father not know about the grenades they were throwing from their car during the police chase?

no surprise why the uncle wanted to separate himself from that family

Not really wrote:

has to be said wrote:

muslim logic

The uncle is Muslim, and he called his nephews "losers".

The father is just either an idiot or an a$$hole.

I heard the uncle this morning too. He said the oldest nephew was a loser. Said he didn't do well in school, may have lost his job and claimed to have found Islam and the uncle claimed he warned him about getting involved with them.

I think this is what happened, the older brother got brainwashed by Islamists, then probably influenced his younger brother. That's usually the case. The older guy dragging the younger one into it. Like Muhammed and Malvo in those sniper shootings.

The dad is overseas. He probably doesn't have access to all the news, pictures, videos, and certainly not the news networks we have here in the US to track and follow this.

Imagine if you're overseas and hear that your 2 sons are blamed for a terrorist bombing and 1 was killed by police and the other is on the run and other details don't match up with what you think you know of your 2 sons. It would seem like a conspiracy and a witchhunt of the wrong people.

Sounds like the uncle knew the 2 brothers were influenced by radical Islam. Maybe the dad didn't, since he wasn't in the country. How often was he in touch with his sons?

The father may be radicalized himself and proud of his sons.

Lib of truth wrote:

The father may be radicalized himself and proud of his sons.

That could be the case.

Ohsure wrote:

I heard the uncle this morning too. He said the oldest nephew was a loser. Said he didn't do well in school, may have lost his job

this is often what pushes these people towards radicalism - lack of financial security/professional success.

Mohammed Atta was a straight A student in Germany, and could not get a job in Egypt.

To me, it reminds me of the sniper case where the kid was totally under the influence of the older guy.

Here, the older brother didn't fit in,moved over late and admitted he had no American friends. A lost soul with few prospects - he goes radical like many Klansman back in the day. Younger bro, whom everyone seemed to think was smart and well liked, just follows big bro.

Very sad.

Lyndon LaRouche wrote:

Ohsure wrote:

I heard the uncle this morning too. He said the oldest nephew was a loser. Said he didn't do well in school, may have lost his job

this is often what pushes these people towards radicalism - lack of financial security/professional success.

Mohammed Atta was a straight A student in Germany, and could not get a job in Egypt.

Huh. And here I thought it was Islam that pushed these psychopaths towards radicalism. I guess you've studied Christians; buddists, Hindus and more and found the strongest correlation is a lack of cable tv?

Oh. the poor little brothers didn't have a choice.

Agreed, Rojo. The age difference if 7 years. Little brother was brain washed long ago by big brother. Little brother is now a total loser, just like his dead older brother. Brain washed, or not, I have no sympathies for the younger one.

I'm overseas and I have access to all stories, pictures, videos, etc..

Do tou know what year it is?

rojo wrote:

Here, the older brother didn't fit in,moved over late and admitted he had no American friends. A lost soul with few prospects

That's bs.

Tamerlan fit in very well, probably better than lots of lr-posters. He had a cute girlfriend and won boxing tournaments.

He opted to become a radical islamist himself. No excuses are needed.

"If he wins enough fights there, Tamerlan says he could be selected for the US Olympic team and be naturalized American. Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia."

Ohsure wrote:

I heard the uncle this morning too. He said the oldest nephew was a loser. Said he didn't do well in school, may have lost his job

Lyndon LaRouche wrote:

this is often what pushes these people towards radicalism - lack of financial security/professional success.

Mohammed Atta was a straight A student in Germany, and could not get a job in Egypt.

Lib of truth wrote:

Huh. And here I thought it was Islam that pushed these psychopaths towards radicalism. I guess you've studied Christians; buddists, Hindus and more and found the strongest correlation is a lack of cable tv?

Oh. the poor little brothers didn't have a choice.

The point is, "what pushes a person in this direction" not, "what sort of radicalism is available". Most christian radicalism is not violent. Some hindu radicals are violent. Etc.

If you are marginalized due to lack of professional/personal success, and you are a reasonably observant muslim, you fall into a pool that can be radicalized. If you are a Xtian in similar circumstances, the odds of being radicalized is much smaller.

You could say that wahhabhist/Salafist islam is radical, and violent. So when a young man sees whole countries engaged in cruel violence in the name of being, "holy", it is easy think, "killing more of the people who are the problem is a good thing. They think so in Saudi".

While the violent margins of most religions are ridiculed and monitored, they are much more in the mainstream in Islam. Most people (muslims included) prefer the open societies of the Western world. It is if/when they fail in these societies that they begin to think, "The radical/violent ways are the best", an option that is not really available to a washout Christian.

[quote]Brutal Reality wrote:

I'm overseas and I have access to all stories, pictures, videos, etc..

Do tou know what year it is?[/quote

Are you in Chechnya?

Aunt of suspects was just interviewed on CNN, appears to also believe it was some type of setup by someone who controlled these 2 suspects. Completely different perspective from the Uncle interview, who called them losers.