Wossamotta wrote:
The answer to many of the questions here is that the article is a bad article, which, considering it's from the NY Daily News, is not a surprise. Among other things, the original article (I don't know what updates have been posted) gave no real reason why drug use, rather than past medical history, should be the suspected cause of death.
boyfriend and her were addicts - says google.
it is sad.
She actually went to my high school a few years ago, Jessica Fingers. She was a great runner and she was very healthy and studious/acedemic. But I really think its the boyfriends fault.
She was a beautiful young woman. Looks just like my ex gf. RIP.
I remember seeing her at a lot of meets a few years back(our high schools were in the same NYSPHSAA section), she made everyone else entered in the same race as her look like an absolute joke.
Not gonna happen wrote:
She actually went to my high school a few years ago, Jessica Fingers. She was a great runner and she was very healthy and studious/acedemic. But I really think its the boyfriends fault.
Did the boyfriend chain her up and shoot her up with drugs all day? Because otherwise she was an adult who made her own choices.
In a break with LRC tradition, I actually tried to find some info on this unfortunate woman at the Columbia website. (Incidentally, I notice that the Columbia athletes seem to be staying entirely out of these discussions. Good for them--I guess the Ivy League *does* have smart kids.)
She was listed on the xc/tf rosters her freshman year (2009-10); she does not appear on any later rosters. Her frosh bio said she'd run "4:40 1500m … 10:38 3200m" in high school.
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FWIW: when I attended an Ivy BITD, I got much more than a full-tuition scholarship: my financial aid (all scholarship, no work-study or loans) paid for all my tuition, plus half of my room-and-board charges. And I couldn't run a lick.
Plus Ivy aid packages have gotten *more* generous since then. I've coached in the Ivy League and can tell you that athletes do NOT get nudge-nudge-wink-wink extra aid...except in the sense that *every* student does.
One reason an increasing number of top HS athletes are going Ivy is that they realize the Ivy education will cost their families less than accepting that full-tuition athletic scholarship at Intoxicated State.
this isn't about whether she had an athletic scholarship, but that she is dead. it takes little effort to differentiate between more and less serious things.
WiT wrote:
We(the letsrun brain trust)
While this is true, one would need a major scholarship to cover a full ride to Columbia. Why wouldn't the author mention it? A scholarship of such value would carry much prestige and would certainly be worth a sentence or two in the article. Most likely, the line about her being on full scholarship was made up.
It is known that Ivy League schools have generous financial aid packages, and often enhance aid to athletes to get around the "no athletic scholarship" rules. Is it possible she received full tuition? I wouldn't think so, but I really don't know.
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I know kids who've gotten full tuition to Ivy Schools just for grades. Usually it's a sport/grade mix.
bW0L wrote:
I was offered 100% full tuition to Columbia and I have a couple of athletes that are receiving full scholarships and financial packages. Two have 1500 SAT scores and are within the top 25 in their discipline in the US (HS level).
Isn't the SAT out of 2400 these days? And how the heck would anybody know if they are in the top 25 of their academic discipline in high school?
Assume the poster is referring to the kids placing on the yearly HS list for there track event.
runn wrote:
I know kids who've gotten full tuition to Ivy Schools just for grades. Usually it's a sport/grade mix.
big letters here> IVY'S DO NOT GIVE ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIPSand no redshirting 4 and off the track-you can use it elsewhere.
While an athletes HS performances may enter into him being recruited but The Ivy's are pretty good about policing Their No Athletic Scholarships rule. Any aid your athletes got was because of grades and the family's financial need.
oops :( just figured out I got trolled. must be 15 mentions of not scholarship on here no one is that stupid and can still type.
RIP i for one have almost died from a drug overdose that's why i stopped doing Cocaine and XTC. Just stick with Weed and Liquor is what i say. :)
I remember reading about her when she first signed with Columbia. What a tragedy. I got the impression from that article and this one that her mom is a single mom, and knowing that the Ivies don't offer merit or athletic scholarships, assumed her scholarship was all financial aid. If your family income is under $60,000, your cost of attendance at the top Ivies will be nothing or next to nothing.