So I was reading Once a Runner for the some-double-digit-th time, and I started wondering: has anyone ever actually done the famous Interval Workout as it's described in the book? Not necessarily in 62-63, but at their equivalent pace? Heck, would it even be possible to do the book's workout, assuming buckets of talent and a "run till I die" mentality?
However, if you have ever done 60x400, I'd love to hear about the experience. What it was like, how long it took you, etc etc.
reluctantly skeptical wrote:
So I was reading Once a Runner for the some-double-digit-th time, and I started wondering: has anyone ever actually done the famous Interval Workout as it's described in the book? Not necessarily in 62-63, but at their equivalent pace? Heck, would it even be possible to do the book's workout, assuming buckets of talent and a "run till I die" mentality?
However, if you have ever done 60x400, I'd love to hear about the experience. What it was like, how long it took you, etc etc.
Its funny you mention that, because I was just listening to that chapter int he book on my way home this afternoon in the car. I did something similar once when I was in college. I did 43 400s @ 66-68 on a 1 minute jog. We started with 20+ guys and the idea was for it to be a competition to see who could do the most. Two of us finished together and our coach finally made us settle for a tie. Afterward, I sat down and could barely get back up to cool down. It was pretty epic at the time, but I badly injured my ITB and ended up missing 3 months so it definitely wasn't worth it.
In the book, QC and Denton are just running for 63 effort so they don't have a watch on it. On the last few, QC says he fell way off the pace, but its hard to know how fast he was running earlier without a watch on it. Either way, obviously a brutal workout. I'm sure some elites have done similar stuff, but most are smart enough not to risk an injury with that much volume at a fast pace.
I've done 40 but 60 is insane
I did this once. It took me 6 weeks.
I did multiple times
didn't zatopek do stuff like this, though his pace was not that fast usually. he was essentially doing very long fartleks.
I think in the book Running Long", there is a story about it. Amby Burfoot comes to mind. I could be wrong. And he may have gotten rhabdo from it. Anyone else remember this?
really?????? wrote:
I think in the book Running Long", there is a story about it. Amby Burfoot comes to mind. I could be wrong. And he may have gotten rhabdo from it. Anyone else remember this?
rhabdo is some scary stuff
jjjjjjj wrote:
didn't zatopek do stuff like this, though his pace was not that fast usually. he was essentially doing very long fartleks.
Yep, in his marathon prep Zatopek (according to what I read) did ten straight days of 60 x (400 fast, 200 easy).
[Yes, I realize that's not the same workout as in OAR.]
His 400s were just around 80 pace, but his 200s were only a bit slower: 45 or so. So he was doing 36km a day at sub-6:00 pace--much more volume and quality than anyone else in the world.
And--surprise!--he did win that OG marathon, after warming up by winning the 10,000 and 5,000 first.
I have no idea but I'd be willing to put money on Ian Edwards having done it.
its called a 24km run
the amby burfoot thing rings a bell but i don't remember any specifics
Meters?
reluctantly skeptical wrote:
So I was reading Once a Runner for the some-double-digit-th time, and I started wondering: has anyone ever actually done the famous Interval Workout as it's described in the book? Not necessarily in 62-63, but at their equivalent pace? Heck, would it even be possible to do the book's workout, assuming buckets of talent and a "run till I die" mentality?
However, if you have ever done 60x400, I'd love to hear about the experience. What it was like, how long it took you, etc etc.
John L Parker Jr did the workout once
That is the kind of workout I liked to do but would have had to run 70 to 72 seconds per 440. I never did that exact workout but while being coach by Coach Mihaly Igloi I did do 60 intervals once. Here is what I wrote in my log the day I did it:
Sun, Feb 20, 1966--am--
10 laps (I assume they were 600 yard laps on the grass)--10 shakeups--(20x150 good speed with 70 yd jog, 2 lap jog, 10x260 hard swing with a 180 yd jog, 2 lap jog) x2--
10 shakeups coach said "hard day"--WOW 60 repeats
That is exactly as it is in my log