I think Dartmouth has set every distance school record in the last three years under Coogan in the 800, 1500, mile, 3,000, steeple, 5k, 10k, 4 x 800, DMR and 4 x 1500. That is OK if you ask me. They are not all set by Abbey D\'Agostino.
I think Dartmouth has set every distance school record in the last three years under Coogan in the 800, 1500, mile, 3,000, steeple, 5k, 10k, 4 x 800, DMR and 4 x 1500. That is OK if you ask me. They are not all set by Abbey D\'Agostino.
Future is now wrote:
Coogan is a part of the next wave of great coaches in the US. Its good to see the turnover in coaching with a younger generation coming through and maybe more important understand coaching at a world class level.
Who would you count in the current wave of older coaches that don't "understand coaching at the world class level"?
How old do you think Coogan is? What age do you consider the younger coaches to be? If I'm not mistaken he is around 47-48?
Born in 1966. 47, the new 29. Still young for the HoF. Has a daughter who runs for G-Town with a sub 4:40 mile and 9:04 3K.
Rustamon wrote:
Born in 1966. 47, the new 29. Still young for the HoF. Has a daughter who runs for G-Town with a sub 4:40 mile and 9:04 3K.
I know, I used to train with him way back, was just asking if the poster who called him part of the young wave of coaches actually knew how old he was. Not sure I would call 47 young.
BTW, he ran for Feehan.
Indeed, all easy to look up. I'm sticking with young though! Does he have any BF girls up there? Recent graduate Hanley is doing well at Harvard. Katie Powell at PC but that's a tough roster to break into.
So he is 3 or 4 years older than Dave Smith and Jerry Schumacher.
I feel like people are really underestimating his advantage on the course conditions and actually think he is better than he is. He wouldn't be top 15 in a 10k on the track vs that field. He is still very good runner and hopefully carries this performance through for a breakthrough year.
Biggest problem he will face is that Dartmouth is a hard location to recruit to. Long, long winters. Have to not mind cold weather and roads half the year. Why would a top recruit want that?
tired of this wrote:
I think Dartmouth has set every distance school record in the last three years under Coogan in the 800, 1500, mile, 3,000, steeple, 5k, 10k, 4 x 800, DMR and 4 x 1500. That is OK if you ask me. They are not all set by Abbey D'Agostino.
All the individual records you cite have been set by D'Agostino ('14), Pappas ('12) or Supino ('12 - 800m). In addition those three have dominated the relays, running three of the four legs in the 4 x 1500 and DMR and two of the 4 legs in the 3200. None of these women were recruited by Coogan. As the gist of this thread is that a college coach is only good/great if (s)he can recruit, I'd say the jury is still out. Oh, I missed one: The only current distance record holder not named above is Caitie Meyer (10K). She's a junior and no longer runs on the track team - a healthy scratch from the roster. What's up with that?
Does he work with only the women? or does he do some stuff with the men?
newname wrote:
Future is now wrote:Coogan is a part of the next wave of great coaches in the US. Its good to see the turnover in coaching with a younger generation coming through and maybe more important understand coaching at a world class level.
Who would you count in the current wave of older coaches that don't "understand coaching at the world class level"?
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Most of them. Collegiate coaching is different than coaching athletes in the world arena of open competition.
Future is now wrote:
Who would you count in the current wave of older coaches that don't "understand coaching at the world class level"?
Most of them. Collegiate coaching is different than coaching athletes in the world arena of open competition.
Are we evaluating the OP's comment in the context of college coaches or coaches in the world arena of competition? Forgive me if I assumed the former.
runner85 wrote:
I feel like people are really underestimating his advantage on the course conditions and actually think he is better than he is. He wouldn't be top 15 in a 10k on the track vs that field. He is still very good runner and hopefully carries this performance through for a breakthrough year.
Uh... yea. That's why it's XC, not track. Different races. duh.