He still kickin' around? How's his early season build coming along?
He still kickin' around? How's his early season build coming along?
The fork's been in him for a while.
He rabbited the first 800 in the mile a couple of weeks ago at University of Washington. He's just playing it safe and wants to get to the point where he can slowly build back up and be competitive and have a shot at making the team for the World Championships. He's healthy, but has just lost a lot of fitness with the setbacks from the surgery that he had to reattach his hamstring.
nikeman wrote:
He rabbited the first 800 in the mile a couple of weeks ago at University of Washington. He's just playing it safe and wants to get to the point where he can slowly build back up and be competitive and have a shot at making the team for the World Championships. He's healthy, but has just lost a lot of fitness with the setbacks from the surgery that he had to reattach his hamstring.
He has said that his main goal is to make the USA 5k final and "be there" on the last lap. He said maybe not kicking to make the team, but just being there would be good.
It's too bad. He is basically hoping to be next year (2014) where he was 4 years ago (2010)...
If he didn't go overboard training himself and slowly progressed instead, he could be where Rupp is now.
This is the same thing that happened with Webb. He thought he needed to train even harder in 2008 than in 2007, when in reality he would have been better off just maintaing his training and making small improvements.
These should be cautionary tales for aspiring runners when compared with Rupp's progression.
Wonder if we'll ever see what he's capable of.
someone had to do it wrote:
nikeman wrote:He rabbited the first 800 in the mile a couple of weeks ago at University of Washington. He's just playing it safe and wants to get to the point where he can slowly build back up and be competitive and have a shot at making the team for the World Championships. He's healthy, but has just lost a lot of fitness with the setbacks from the surgery that he had to reattach his hamstring.
If he didn't go overboard training himself and slowly progressed instead, he could be where Rupp is now.
This is the same thing that happened with Webb. He thought he needed to train even harder in 2008 than in 2007, when in reality he would have been better off just maintaing his training and making small improvements.
These should be cautionary tales for aspiring runners when compared with Rupp's progression.
He hurt himself tripping over his dog down a set of stairs, not from over training. Everything you said is presumptuous and has zero basis for fact.
this is not true. if you read his interviews, he said tripping was only part of it. he basically said he was overtrained and his body was tight and overstressed.
Jungle Master wrote:
He hurt himself tripping over his dog down a set of stairs, not from over training. Everything you said is presumptuous and has zero basis for fact.
Wrong. Chris said that he was over training and tripping was just the final nail in the coffin.
He was doing 1:45 in the morning and 50 minutes in the PM hammering both runs on his EASY days.
Jungle Master wrote:
He hurt himself tripping over his dog down a set of stairs, not from over training. Everything you said is presumptuous and has zero basis for fact.
Try again
RW: Your hamstring injury was attributable to an accident of some kind, but you also said that part of the problem is that you never let up and it's hard for coaches to rein you in. Was the problem from a single incident, or was it caused by cumulative overwork?
CS: It was definitely both. I had hamstring issues from March 2011 through August [of that year], and then August was when I actually -- it was something so trivial. I tripped over my dog, and caught myself coming down the stairs but I landed a little bit funny. It was just enough that my hamstring was already so tight and that put enough tension on the attachment that it just popped right off. But even just to get to that point, I overdid a lot of things in training. I've always been really good at listening to my body. I've never been good at running slow but usually, if I'm really fatigued or whatnot, I'll take an afternoon run off.
But in 2011, I had my sights set on winning the world championship, and what I'd done in 2010 [when he set his 5000 and 10,000 bests], I thought, "Okay, that's got me here, this is what I need to do to make the next jump." I just had my sights set so strongly set on that and refused to listen to my body as well as I had in the past. I thought I had strained my hamstring, but I found out later I was tearing my hamstring and that scar tissue kept binding up, binding up and putting pressure on the attachment. It took one little slip on the stairs to pop it right off.
http://www.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/chris-solinskys-next-step-comeback-trailnikeman wrote:
He rabbited the first 800 in the mile a couple of weeks ago at University of Washington. He's just playing it safe and wants to get to the point where he can slowly build back up and be competitive and have a shot at making the team for the World Championships. He's healthy, but has just lost a lot of fitness with the setbacks from the surgery that he had to reattach his hamstring.
So you're saying he got screwed up the ass?
someone had to do it wrote:
nikeman wrote:He rabbited the first 800 in the mile a couple of weeks ago at University of Washington. He's just playing it safe and wants to get to the point where he can slowly build back up and be competitive and have a shot at making the team for the World Championships. He's healthy, but has just lost a lot of fitness with the setbacks from the surgery that he had to reattach his hamstring.
He has said that his main goal is to make the USA 5k final and "be there" on the last lap. He said maybe not kicking to make the team, but just being there would be good.
It's too bad. He is basically hoping to be next year (2014) where he was 4 years ago (2010)...
If he didn't go overboard training himself and slowly progressed instead, he could be where Rupp is now.
This is the same thing that happened with Webb. He thought he needed to train even harder in 2008 than in 2007, when in reality he would have been better off just maintaing his training and making small improvements.
These should be cautionary tales for aspiring runners when compared with Rupp's progression.
Please explain to me how Solinsky hoping to just simply make the USA 5K final in 2014 is even close to where he was in 2010? You said, "He is basically hoping to be next year (2014) where he was 4 years ago (2010)..."
2010 - PRs
3000 m 7:34.32 August 29, 2010
5000 m 12:55.53 August 6, 2010
10,000 m 26:59.60 May 1, 2010
Solinksy sets American record in 10K, runs sub 13 several times, gets 2nd in USAs (beating Rupp) and almost taking down Lagat - Lagat was quoted after as saying he didn't think he'd hold off Solinksy and it was one of the hardest pushes he ever had. And of course qualifying for Worlds.
So, again, how would not even expecting to make the top 3 in the USA 5K champs be even remotely close to being where he was in 2010? I apologize if I missed something.
make the final and 'be there' in USA's 2013.
be back to his prime in 2014
LOL.OWNED.
Jungle Master wrote:
He hurt himself tripping over his dog down a set of stairs, not from over training. Everything you said is presumptuous and has zero basis for fact.
someone had to do it wrote:
Try again
RW: Your hamstring injury was attributable to an accident of some kind, but you also said that part of the problem is that you never let up and it's hard for coaches to rein you in. Was the problem from a single incident, or was it caused by cumulative overwork?
CS: It was definitely both. I had hamstring issues from March 2011 through August [of that year], and then August was when I actually -- it was something so trivial. I tripped over my dog, and caught myself coming down the stairs but I landed a little bit funny. It was just enough that my hamstring was already so tight and that put enough tension on the attachment that it just popped right off. But even just to get to that point, I overdid a lot of things in training. I've always been really good at listening to my body. I've never been good at running slow but usually, if I'm really fatigued or whatnot, I'll take an afternoon run off.
But in 2011, I had my sights set on winning the world championship, and what I'd done in 2010 [when he set his 5000 and 10,000 bests], I thought, "Okay, that's got me here, this is what I need to do to make the next jump." I just had my sights set so strongly set on that and refused to listen to my body as well as I had in the past. I thought I had strained my hamstring, but I found out later I was tearing my hamstring and that scar tissue kept binding up, binding up and putting pressure on the attachment. It took one little slip on the stairs to pop it right off.
http://www.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/chris-solinskys-next-step-comeback-trail
It sounds like he was slightly overtrained but had he not had the dog incident, may have made it through the season uninjured. So, not OWNED. Not 100% correct but not OWNED.
Solinsky is a great runner. His 2010 times are incredible. These are no longer the days where a 13:20 will win a championship 5K. I'm not sure how many years somebody can compete at the top level and run sub 13 minute 5Ks. I hope he can get back to this form.
yes, definitely owned.
whoever called out 'someone had to do it' was being an idiot. whether or not the issue of solinski's injury was attributable to the fall or overtraining is really irrelevant to the side note albeit sage advice offered by "someone had to do it / clearing the bs up???"'s post.
TLW wrote:
Jungle Master wrote:He hurt himself tripping over his dog down a set of stairs, not from over training. Everything you said is presumptuous and has zero basis for fact.
Wrong. Chris said that he was over training and tripping was just the final nail in the coffin.
He was doing 1:45 in the morning and 50 minutes in the PM hammering both runs on his EASY days.
And he ran 26:59 off of pure fitness because of it. Had he been fully trained he could have gone 26:45 and been in the hunt for a medal as well.
Running fast helps you to run fast. Its not rocket science.
I don't see him breaking 13 again. I could see home doing well in the longer stuff. He has talent but speed fades.
Speed fades? Last time I checked he ran a 1:56ish for his last 800 when he ran a 26:59 10k. Outkicking Rupp and getting the American record.I didn't realize when you close a 10k with a 1:56 your speed was fading...Heck in 2011 when he got 2nd at the USA World trials it sure didn't look like his spade was fading when he just barely lost to Lagat.
Samiamamam wrote:
I don't see him breaking 13 again. I could see home doing well in the longer stuff. He has talent but speed fades.
And he ran 26:59 off of pure fitness because of it. Had he been fully trained he could have gone 26:45 and been in the hunt for a medal as well.
Running fast helps you to run fast. Its not rocket science.
WRONG. He started training this way AFTER he ran sub 27:00 not before.