Cas Loxsom is Back!!! - 1:46.98 Opener

So basically 1:47.

Elias Koech from UTEP ran 1:46.77 in 2008 at the Iowa State Classic meet. It was the leading time indoors for the 800m in the NCAA during 2008.

Fastest D1 indoors time last year (2012) was 1:46.97.

That is pretty darn impressive for an opening race.

why not?. wrote:

So basically 1:47.

Does any 2:59 runners say they are a a 3 hr marathoner

1:46.98 - good running

Impressive performance and a nice run by the freshman Kidder.

trackgirl9 wrote:

Elias Koech from UTEP ran 1:46.77 in 2008 at the Iowa State Classic meet. It was the leading time indoors for the 800m in the NCAA during 2008.

I guess you didn't get my point. We're talking about legitimate tracks. The IAAF doesn't recognize oversized tracks and NCAAs will hopefully never be held on one.

Oversized tracks are basically an admission by track programs that they are less important than a football practice facility.

We're looking for 200 or 200 banked tracks.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Oversized tracks are basically an admission by track programs that they are less important than a football practice facility.

We're looking for 200 or 200 banked tracks.

Ratification issues notwithstanding, that's a pretty narrow view. I'd imagine many college distance runners (myself included) would jump at the opportunity to have a 300ish meter training facility for indoors...gentler turns, easier on the hips. Regardless of why the school builds a bigger facility (football probably pays a huge part, yes), the fact that YOU, as a fan trying to make comparisons, don't like them, doesn't mean that plenty of athletes wouldn't.

Penn State's mid-d crew is pretty incredible. Even more incredible to me is what they do with freshman in mid-January every year. Those guys are ready to rock and roll.

This year - 2012: Brandon Kidder a kid with a 1:51.09 pb runs Kidder, opens at 1:48.17. So Sick.Sdmittedly, he was a 4:03 miler in HS. Za'Von Watkins 2:22.02 in the 1k.

2011: Robby Creese, a kid with a 1:54.00 HS pb, runs ab collegiate and American junior record of 2:19.53 in the 1k. So so sick. Wade Endress 2:24.73

2010: Loxsom runs 1:16.92 for 600.

2008: Borchers as a frosh runs 2:22.42

Yes, most of those guys were studs in HS, but some of that stuff was a huge surprise like Kidder and Creese.

Already peaked, just like every other year.

LetsRun.com wrote:eld on one.

Oversized tracks are basically an admission by track programs that they are less important than a football practice facility.

We're looking for 200 or 200 banked tracks.

Why does 200m matter? Penn States track is one of the fastest in the world. It was modeled after the same track that Geb ran 3:31 on.

Get back to me when he does it when it matters.

Two guys ran faster in'06 at the Big 12 meet.

The banked 200 and the flat oversized tracks have the same adjustment times. The comment about oversized tracks indicating that the school spends on (football) but not track is possibly the dumbest one of the day, week, 2013, ....

I get that .5 seconds is a lot in the 800, but I consider Ben Scheetz running1:47 his senior year as a DIII runner to be more impressive. However, hopefully Cas will maintain and improve and show up at nationals.

Cant wait to see what they run come outdoors when half the guys flame out.

Another excellent rabbit job by Kevin Fuller. Kid has paced from redic times for Penn Staters.

fbehtrhrt wrote:

Already peaked, just like every other year.

This.

He beat his own facility record by a scant 0.38s which he set 2 years ago.

He won't be around when it counts. He never is.

Pistol wavin new haven is what got him started