Which American-born runner has the fastest combined mile and marathon PRs?

Definitely Ryan Hall, since the fastest mile times of most guys are within 10 seconds of each other while with the marathon, we're talking half a minute or more!

The better question would be which one has the lower combined ranking for the mile and the marathon lists:

1st in mile, 50th in marathon = 51, for example.

What do you mean by combined? I you just add their times together it will by Ryan Hall.

This can be extended to see which American runner is highest ranked for any combination of distances, or lowest combined rank on the charts rather.

Anyone who is among the top 5 all-time in any event will have a big advantage since they're likely to be good at other events too.

I'd like to know who has the lowest score for the 5K/10K/mile combined.

2:04:58 + 4:00 = 2:08:58

Should the 2:04 count in this? He'd still have the fastest marathon time without the 2:04. it seems like you'd have to puit a star by it, unfortunately.

What two brothers hit the most career home runs in the Major leagues?

I don't mean combined as in additive. I mean fastest at both distances per the Rod Dixon thread. And we all know Ryan Hall is not a 2:04 marathoner.

Javascript project idea, maybe Letsrun can add it to their website: Add a form where you can just type in the name of an elite runner and drop down the distance, and it returns where their performance ranks on the all-time lists.

Ken Martin and Alan Culpepper both ran 2:09, though Martin's was on a tougher course. He was a great steepler, but I don't know his 1500/mile PR.

I think the OP wants to see which American born runner was a top miler and then ran a world class marathon time. I think Ryan Hall's and Ritzenheims best 1500's were 3:41-3:42.

I am not certain but I think Alan Culpepper ran 3:56 for the mile and 2:09 for the marathon.

Sagarin wrote:

I don't mean combined as in additive. I mean fastest at both distances per the Rod Dixon thread. And we all know Ryan Hall is not a 2:04 marathoner.

Really?

So you are saying that no mile times were ever aided by pacemakers blocking the wind on one stretch and that same wind helping the miler on the other stretch?

From the top of my pointy head. Martin ran 3:57. Culpepper 3:55. Hall 3:42. Meyer 3:59.

Hank and Tommy wrote:

What two brothers hit the most career home runs in the Major leagues?

That would be Hammerin' Hank and Tommy Aaron.

What gets me is recalling that H. Aaron never hit 50 homers in a season. Hell, he never hit 48! And only ("only"?) once was he the MVP. He just kept having solid seasons, year after year.

malmo wrote:

From the top of my pointy head. Martin ran 3:57. Culpepper 3:55. Hall 3:42. Meyer 3:59.

Thanks Malmo. I'm sure you are right. Culpepper seems to be the one.

The most intuitive way to calculate this would be to add up the mile paces:

Hall 4:00 (3:42 1500) + 4:49 (2:06:17) = 8:49. 8:46 if you count Boston 2011.

Culpepper 3:55 + 4:57 (2:09:41) = 8:52.

Martin 3:57 + 5:01 (2:11:24) = 8:58.

Non-Americans:

Dixon 3:53 + 4:55 (2:08:58) = 8:48. Though if you equate his 3:33.9 to 3:51.x, he has 8:46.

Gebrselassie 3:52 + 4:44 (2:03:59) = 8:38. Like Dixon, ran 3:33.7 so you could change it to 8:37.

Sorry for any rounding errors.

PS, for Alan Webb to top Ryan Hall's 8:49 in his eventual marathon quest, he would need to run 5:03 pace, i.e. 2:12:24. To beat Gebrselassie's beastly 8:38, he would have to come up with a 2:07:36, i.e. 4:52 pace. Though if Ritz can do it...

Forgot to mention Greg Meyer, as he had a solid marathon PR: 3:59 + 4:55 (2:09:00) = 8:54, just behind Culpepper. Can't find that Rogers, Salazar, or Frank Shorter ever ran fast mile times.

PS did Malmo ever run a sub-4 mile? If so he might be one of the other only members of the American "sub-9" club above.

crazy raisin wrote:

The most intuitive way to calculate this would be to add up the mile paces:

Hall 4:00 (3:42 1500) + 4:49 (2:06:17) = 8:49. 8:46 if you count Boston 2011.

Culpepper 3:55 + 4:57 (2:09:41) = 8:52.

Martin 3:57 + 5:01 (2:11:24) = 8:58.

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Martin ran 2:09:40