Why is Oregon Overrated?

Not following. The defense of the school football team is a metric of how good of track school it is?

Number of NCAA track championships compared to:

Arkansas

USC

Texas A&M (recently)

LSU

Florida

Number of Olympic medals won. In London, Florida and USC accounted for roughly half of the medals won by USA in every sport. Did Oregon win more medals in London than Cal State Dominguez Hills (3)?

A: To keep Phil Knight appeased and happy.

Yeah, but... but... but Steve Prefontaine!

That's the fallback Oregon position, and it's why they invented the Pre legend to begin with. When all else fails, and it usually does, there's always that guy who won NCAA's and then died.

What Oregon has going for it...

Big name success. Past greats like Pre, Salazar, Chapa,

and current successfull runners like Centro, Wheating, Rupp.

Despite saying Oregon has an overrated mens program. They are the ONLY college to produce NCAA age Olympians for distance runners in the last two olypmics.

Oregon hasnt had much going for it with its most recent athletes, thats why you think they suck. But most people shape their dream perception from their early teen years. Back when oregon had Galen, wheating, their stories shaped oregon in people's "dream" school.

Yes oregon is overrated if you expect everything to come in, to come out like magic. But with realistic expectations, they actually have done quite well.

Jordan was the best highschooler, and is top 3 for college best. She hasnt been the amazing olympian she hoped, but that's life.

denadinasour wrote:

What Oregon has going for it...

Back when oregon had Galen, wheating, their stories shaped oregon in people's "dream" school.

Wow, I must be a fossil if the "good old days" are when Rupp was running NCAA

Oregon women are awesome as is jordan

denadinasour wrote:

Despite saying Oregon has an overrated mens program. They are the ONLY college to produce NCAA age Olympians for distance runners in the last two olypmics.

Colorado:

Men: Ritz

Women: Simpson, Coburn, Kipp

denadinasour wrote:

Despite saying Oregon has an overrated mens program. They are the ONLY college to produce NCAA age Olympians for distance runners in the last two olypmics.

In addition to Colorado mentioned above, I believe that NAU and Wisconsin would also take offense to that statement. But hey, it's only facts.

U of Oregon has more sub 4 milers than any other university on the planet.

It's just that the Ories are OVER advertised by Nike Beaverton. The media treats the Ories as good but ordinary and not like USC, Florida, or Notre Dame.

Their team might not be great now, but what they have going for them is NIKE. Hell, who wouldn't want to run with all that sweet stuff? Plus, they do have that whole mythical status going for them. Yes, I agree they are overrated. However, they will (at some point) return to dominance, due to the fact that such great talent goes there. The talent goes, because of the allure of nike. Perhaps, another thing to consider is that it is (not sure how accurate this is, but I've heard it many, many times) not exactly a difficult academic school. Frankly, a great runner with Olympic/professional runner aspirations isn't worried about how hard the classes are. He's worries about TRAINING. This might be idiotic, since very, very few runners become Olympians or go pro, but that might play a role in the whole Oregon thing.

coach d wrote:

Number of NCAA track championships compared to:

Arkansas

USC

Texas A&M (recently)

LSU

Florida

Number of Olympic medals won. In London, Florida and USC accounted for roughly half of the medals won by USA in every sport. Did Oregon win more medals in London than Cal State Dominguez Hills (3)?

Why don't you give up on this crap. It has nothing to do with almost any of the threads it is thrown in with. What happens with sprinters 25 years ago has zilch to do with what mid-D and distance runners are doing now. You might be a coach, but it seems overly juvenile; that it is usually irrelevant just makes it a pain in the neck or elsewhere. It appears that you cannot address the content of the thread and have to resort to beating your breast about someone else's accomplishments of little or no relevance.

george oscar bluth wrote:

denadinasour wrote:

Despite saying Oregon has an overrated mens program. They are the ONLY college to produce NCAA age Olympians for distance runners in the last two olypmics.

In addition to Colorado mentioned above, I believe that NAU and Wisconsin would also take offense to that statement. But hey, it's only facts.

Other than Lopez Lomong, which runners in their early 20s from those schools made the Olympics in 2008 or 2012?

Hope you know that CSUDH is smack dab in the middle of the world's premiere T&F Gold Mine, Los Angeles. No wonder CSUDH won 3 medals at London. Other medal tallies: USC 25, Cal 17, Stanford 16, UCLA 8.Folks outside of the west coast don't realize the heart of both the Cal Alumni Assn and Stanford Alumni Assn is in Los Angeles (and not Frisco). I.E. most of the athletic funding and power plays for Stanford and Cal are made in the Southland.

Number of NCAA track championships compared to:

Arkansas

USC

Texas A&M (recently)

LSU

Florida

Number of Olympic medals won. In London, Florida and USC accounted for roughly half of the medals won by USA in every sport. Did Oregon win more medals in London than Cal State Dominguez Hills (3)?

Right now? No. And Arkansas probably has that record

OP, why do you think Oregon is not that good educationally? The laws of science are the same at every school. And if you're a rankings slave, then Oregon is top ranked in several areas.

My Name Is Judge wrote:

george oscar bluth wrote:

In addition to Colorado mentioned above, I believe that NAU and Wisconsin would also take offense to that statement. But hey, it's only facts.

Other than Lopez Lomong, which runners in their early 20s from those schools made the Olympics in 2008 or 2012?

DIEGO ESTRADA ran the 10,000 in London. He still has eligibility at NAU for one more track season I believe

also currently have greer who is very good, just not at xc

plus mac fleet 3rd at indoor ncaas in the mile as a true frosh who is coming back from injury

they should have lukas

and if centro had RS'ed xc after '11 worlds and not gone pro, he'd have been on their team this year

lukas, fleet at his best, and a RS SR centro, plus non-awful days from dunbar and stinson, and they're a much much different team than we saw a couple weekends ago.

i don't think it's some massive failing of the program that kept this potential from being realized, they just hit some tough breaks.