It seems like everyone loves celebrating in other sports but people hate when others do that it running...I don't get it whats wrong with celebrating like many other athletes do?
It seems like everyone loves celebrating in other sports but people hate when others do that it running...I don't get it whats wrong with celebrating like many other athletes do?
because runners dont have the exciting backstories and long running feuds, and fan worship as the big sports.
the cult following of other sports means that people will celebrate the cockiness of their favorite teams, while runners are mostly soloists without a fanatical fan base.
I didn't hear any complaints when Ezekiel Kemboi did a little dance when he won the 3000 steeple at 2012 Olympics. Maybe a few laughs, but no hate.
if galen rupp did that he would have been crucified metaphorically. typical stupid lrc racism towards whiteboy galen
o Roy wrote:
if galen rupp did that he would have been crucified metaphorically. typical stupid lrc racism towards whiteboy galen
I think you're right but it's not just a whiteboy thing.
Imagine if any American celebrated like Usain bolt. They'd be the "cocky American," not the "lovable Jamaican."
willy k wrote:
o Roy wrote:if galen rupp did that he would have been crucified metaphorically. typical stupid lrc racism towards whiteboy galen
I think you're right but it's not just a whiteboy thing.
Imagine if any American celebrated like Usain bolt. They'd be the "cocky American," not the "lovable Jamaican."
You're right but I have a friend who's wife is a "sports" fan. She she thinks she knows sports and athletics but only knows football, basketball, and baseball. She is one of those people who thinks other sports just aren't "real".
She hates Bolt but thinks some of the **shole American Football players who act like jerks after sacking a Q-back or scoring a TD are cool.
She also thinks that American football players re world famous and loved all over the world.
Crazy ignorant. My friend get's frustrated trying to drum sense into her head.
I find it's only boggle eyed dorks that hate cocky runners.
It's more annoying when they don't celebrate after winning a race. Stop being an autistic robot and show some emotion.
It does matter in other sports. Arrogance is off-putting.
I'm not a fan of Usain Bolt or Cam Newton, for example, but do look up to the Roger Federers and Tim Duncans of the world.
yjyj wrote:
It does matter in other sports. Arrogance is off-putting.
I'm not a fan of Usain Bolt or Cam Newton, for example, but do look up to the Roger Federers and Tim Duncans of the world.
This. I've heard many people criticize football and hockey players on call-in shows for celebrating too much and putting themselves ahead of the team. The same fans heap loads of praise on classy players, such as our old all-star running back, who celebrated all of his touchdowns by handing the ball to the official and jogging to the sidelines matter-of-factly.
The other reason is that most fans of running are runners themselves so it pisses them off if the winner of a race showboats after beating them. Track and field is a sport, while professional sports are sporting entertainment.
Por que?? wrote:
It seems like everyone loves celebrating in other sports but people hate when others do that it running...I don't get it whats wrong with celebrating like many other athletes do?
Steve Ovett ..... the wave ....... the British people loved him, the British press hated him.
Steve Prefontaine ...... he defined the cocky runner ...... American track fans loved him.
The OP's thesis is misplaced. Not entirely wrong, just misplaced.
Because the average American doesn't follow the sport of running and therefore runners don't have any reason to be cocky.
People don't like it when athletes are cocky in other sports either. A little bit of celebrating is fine (e.g., putting up your index finger to indicate you are number one after a race, chest bump with your buddies after a TD). The NFL even has a rule forbidding excess celebration.
[quote]Running on Empathy wrote:
Steve Ovett ..... the wave ....... the British people loved him, the British press hated him.
Steve Prefontaine ...... he defined the cocky runner ...... American track fans loved him.
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True, but AlSal and Dave Bedford of the UK were also pretty cocky in their day (or at least perceived that way), and not sure it worked out for them that well.
Depends on what you mean by cocky. A celebration after you win it ok, but the nature of distance running is that it does not pay off that much to go into a big race bragging that you are going to win or make the others suffer, etc; making yourself the target, ala Pre, Dave Bedford, etc. It is OK to put pressure on yourself if you are a sprinter like Bolt, due to the explosive nature of the event. But putting a mental burden on yourself before a long, painful distance race is usually not a good idea. I spoke with Rod Dixon once and he joked about how he and others joked around and played mind games on Pre when training together some times. He said Pre (whom he liked) set himself up for it with his big talk. Ian Stewart, who passed Pre down the stretch for the bronze in the Olympic 5000, also later wrote about how he enjoyed sitting quietly before the days leading up to that race listening to Pre build himself up in the press as the big favorite and put pressure on himself.
People don't mind the playful celebrating athletes do. Mohammed Ali, Usain Bolt, they always have a sense of humor to them when they boast. A lot of it is showmanship.
A guy like Alberto Salazar in the early 1980's was not so likeable among running fans compared to Bill Rodgers. And definitely not liked among his competitors. Only for being bluntly honest that he considered himself the best in the world. After 1981 NYC I recall reading an interview in The Runner magazine where he repsonded "I honestly don't think I can be beaten." I suppose he had the complete belief in himself, or had to always talk that way to block off any doubts, perhaps similarly Prefontaine was that way.
Por que?? wrote:
I don't get it whats wrong with celebrating like many other athletes do?
You worry about sh:t like this? For real?
Because they're not allowed to jeer at a crappy performance like in other sports.
When your football team or basketball team sucks, you jeer at them and throw things. When your runners suck, you have to clap politely and yell "good job."
When a championship 5000 is run at slower than 13:30 pace, the fans should pelt the runners with rocks and bottles. That would speed things up.
True. Today I was doing a very easy pace long run and some kids were stood watching shouting "go on keep it up man". I don't get it, I'm not even fat!