5th at UCF Black & Gold. Whatever happened to them? They were national-caliber not that long ago.
5th at UCF Black & Gold. Whatever happened to them? They were national-caliber not that long ago.
Glory Days wrote:
http://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/4611.html5th at UCF Black & Gold. Whatever happened to them? They were national-caliber not that long ago.
Where is the coach from when they were national caliber?
Dude, I was just in Key West last winter. Can't get any better than that.
Brian Wave wrote:
Where is the coach from when they were national caliber?
Bob Braman use to be the coach.
What really hurts the men's distance squad right now is that they are roster restricted to 9 guys total and have 1 scholarship to spread out for the whole team.
It's not just the number on the roster. They do get decent guys out of high school. What really hurts is having a coach who doesn't know anything about running or coaching and apparently could care less. I think she came from coaching high school that had let go of her for this reason. They were national caliber under Braman and his immediate successors.
Glory Days wrote:
http://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/4611.htmlThey were national-caliber not that long ago.
You mean back in 1992-92 with Jon(class is optional at USF) Dennis.
well one guy does not make the team. what about dror vaknin, chris paine (?), geralt owens and john bowden? it takes more than 1 guy to make a relay team run 15:10 for 4X1500
In 1998 USF placed 3rd at South Regions XC.
NCAA South Regional Championship
Spain Park, Birmingham, AL
November 14, 1998
Distances: Men = 10,000 meters; Women = 5,000 meters
Men's Team Results: 1.Tennessee-Chattanooga (77), 2. Tennessee (92), 3. South Florida (98), 4. Florida (126), 5. Georgia (175), 6. Georgia Tech (201), 7. Mississippi (218), 8. East Tennessee State (233), 9. Florida State (247), 10. Miami (302), 11. Georgia State (309), 12. Belmont (364), 13. FIU (370), 14. South Alabama (399), 15. Auburn (410), 16. Central Florida (414), 17. Alabama (416), 18. Troy State (421), 19. Samford (439), 20. Austin Peay State (477), 21. Georgia Southern (582), 22. Florida Atlantic (662), 23. Vanderbilt (667), 24. Jacksonville State (683)
1. Nic Cider (UTC), 30:58.09; 2. Doug Ellington (UTC),31:09.76; 3. David Rop (JSU), 31:11.80; 4. Michael Green (TSU), 31:12.88; 5. Russ Gerbers (USF), 31:15.24; 6. Rodney Stoker (UTC), 31:16.34; 7. Kevin Pierdbon (UGA), 31:23.50; 8. Zachary Whitmarsh (ETSU), 31:26.23; 9. Yoursi El Mejdoubi (USM), 31:26.64; 10. Anthony Famiglietti (UT), 31:27.38. 11. Gaby Rodriguez (FIU), 31:41.28
Here is 1999, their glory years. 2nd to a Tim Broe-led Alabama. Remember, Bob Braman, now of NCAA Champ Florida State, was the head coach at South Florida during these years. Kimani was unstoppable.
11/17/99 10:52 AM N.C.A.A. South Region Qualifying Meet Page 1
Hosted by Auburn University
Indian Pines Golf Course in Auburn, AL - Saturday 11/13/99
Event 2 Men's 10,000 Meter Run
MEN'S TEAM SCORES
Rank School Total 1 2 3 4 5 *6 *7 *8 *9
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1 Univ. OF Alabama 69 3 5 18 19 24 46 81
Total time: 2:32:22.48
Average: 30:28.50
2 Univ. of So. Fl. 73 9 10 15 17 22 35 104
Total time: 2:33:49.20
Average: 30:45.84
3 Univ. of Tennessee 94 4 16 20 23 31 39 56
Total time: 2:34:05.98
Average: 30:49.20
4 Univ. of Florida 115 8 21 26 27 33 60 96
Total time: 2:35:17.02
Average: 31:03.40
5 Univ. South Alabama 152 1 13 37 49 52 68 101
Total time: 2:35:30.39
Average: 31:06.08
6 Tn.- Chattanooga 196 28 32 38 43 55 69 80
Total time: 2:38:18.19
Average: 31:39.64
7 Univ. OF Georgia 227 6 40 44 45 92 102 110
Total time: 2:38:20.08
Average: 31:40.02
8 Belmont Univ. 263 7 42 53 79 82 85 107
Total time: 2:39:08.24
Average: 31:49.65
9 East Tennessee St. 264 30 34 47 66 87
Total time: 2:39:56.21
Average: 31:59.24
10 Georgia Tech 280 12 50 67 73 78 91 98
Total time: 2:40:04.63
Average: 32:00.93
11 Samford University 287 36 51 63 65 72 84 94
Total time: 2:40:46.01
Average: 32:09.20
12 Georgia State Univ. 312 14 57 75 76 90 97 108
Total time: 2:40:47.71
Average: 32:09.54
13 Auburn Univeristy 315 48 58 62 70 77 83 123
Total time: 2:41:26.66
Average: 32:17.33
14 Florida State Univ. 338 25 54 71 93 95 111 127
Total time: 2:41:37.61
Average: 32:19.52
15 Jackson State Univ. 370 2 61 89 103 115 138
Total time: 2:41:42.82
Average: 32:20.56
16 Florida International 396 11 74 100 105 106
Total time: 2:42:50.12
Average: 32:34.02
17 Univ. of Miami 413 41 64 86 109 113
Total time: 2:44:25.86
Average: 32:53.17
18 Bethune-Cookman 438 29 59 99 114 137 141
Total time: 2:47:50.63
Average: 33:34.13
19 Austin Peay St. 598 88 121 122 125 142
Total time: 2:58:19.27
Average: 35:39.85
20 Vanderbilt Univ. 612 112 119 120 129 132 133 135
Total time: 2:53:01.32
Average: 34:36.26
21 Tennessee Tech 618 116 118 126 128 130 134
Total time: 2:53:28.71
Average: 34:41.74
22 Jacksonville State 647 117 124 131 136 139 140 143
Total time: 2:58:32.38
Average: 35:42.48
C.F.P.I. Timing & Data Hy-Tek's MEET MANAGER
11/17/99 10:53 AM N.C.A.A. South Region Qualifying Meet Page 1
Hosted by Auburn University
Indian Pines Golf Course in Auburn, AL - Saturday 11/13/99
Event 2 Men's 10,000 Meter Run
Results by Order of Finish - Saturday 11/13/99
RANK COMP# ATHLETE NAME YR SCHOOL AVG MILE TIME SCORE
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1 498 Kimani, David FR Univ. South Alabam 4:42 29:16.40 1
2 22 Rop, David SR Jackson State Univ 4:43 29:22.18 2
3 313 Broe, Tim FR Univ. OF Alabama 4:44 29:26.77 3
4 477 Famiglietti, Anthony SR Univ. of Tennessee 4:47 29:44.50 4
5 323 Mutai, Christopher JR Univ. OF Alabama 4:48 29:52.57 5
6 400 Griffin, Zachary SR Univ. OF Georgia 4:49 30:00.82 6
7 63 Kemey, William FR Belmont Univ. 4:50 30:05.84 7
8 249 Kemei, Paul SR So. Mississippi 4:51 30:11.85
9 377 Evans, Rob JR Univ. of Florida 4:51 30:13.13 8
10 250 Koech, Chris JR So. Mississippi 4:53 30:25.49
11 455 Hill, Cornelius JR Univ. of So. Fl. 4:54 30:32.24 9
12 457 Jones, Richard JR Univ. of So. Fl. 4:55 30:37.13 10
13 117 Rodriguez, Gaby SR Florida Internatio 4:55 30:38.35 11
14 174 Mills, Brad SR Georgia Tech 4:56 30:40.71 12
15 246 Cheraisi, Samuel JR So. Mississippi 4:56 30:41.53
16 499 Lopatyuk, Aleksiy SO Univ. South Alabam 4:56 30:41.82 13
17 157 Mott, Tee JR Georgia State Univ 4:56 30:44.27 14
18 453 Gerbers, Russ JR Univ. of So. Fl. 4:56 30:45.23 15
19 484 Steed, Jason JR Univ. of Tennessee 4:57 30:46.96 16
20 459 Salo, Janerik JR Univ. of So. Fl. 4:57 30:47.23 17
21 314 Chettle, Michael SO Univ. OF Alabama 4:58 30:52.71 18
22 325 Rono, Francis JR Univ. OF Alabama 4:58 30:55.82 19
23 473 Clark, Ryan FR Univ. of Tennessee 4:58 30:56.63 20
24 375 Duncan, Chris SO Univ. of Florida 4:59 31:02.66 21
25 451 Edge, Jeremy SR Univ. of So. Fl. 5:00 31:07.37 22
26 245 Arriaga, Jaime SR So. Mississippi 5:00 31:07.64
27 478 Jamison, Jon SR Univ. of Tennessee 5:01 31:13.22 23
28 329 Williamson, John SR Univ. OF Alabama 5:01 31:14.61 24
29 138 Ware, Josh JR Florida State Univ 5:01 31:15.72 25
30 376 Ernest-Jones, Eddie SR Univ. of Florida 5:02 31:16.64 26
31 383 Ortiz, Rolando FR Univ. of Florida 5:02 31:18.04 27
32 422 Schmallegger, Christia SR Univ. of Memphis 5:02 31:18.96
33 274 Grice, Shon SR Tn.- Chattanooga 5:02 31:20.71 28
34 74 Langat, Joseph SO Bethune-Cookman 5:03 31:22.80 29
35 94 Whitmarsh, Zachary SR East Tennessee St. 5:03 31:24.35 30
36 483 Rochford, Colin FR Univ. of Tennessee 5:03 31:24.67 31
37 277 Lenarduzzi, Danielle JR Tn.- Chattanooga 5:03 31:24.92 32
38 374 Chambers, Courtney SO Univ. of Florida 5:03 31:26.55 33
39 87 Baird, Aaron SR East Tennessee St. 5:03 31:27.99 34
40 419 Foltz, Kevin SR Univ. of Memphis 5:04 31:33.33
41 456 Johnson, Matt SO Univ. of So. Fl. 5:04 31:34.55 35
42 232 Baddorf, Brett FR Samford University 5:05 31:35.66 36
43 497 Herring, Joseph FR Univ. South Alabam 5:05 31:38.21 37
44 273 Gadula, Curtis JR Tn.- Chattanooga 5:05 31:40.23 38
45 480 Leach, Brad SR Univ. of Tennessee 5:06 31:41.50 39
46 355 MC Cabe, Sean SO Univ. of Cent. FL 5:06 31:42.22
47 399 Corona, Benjamin JR Univ. OF Georgia 5:06 31:44.09 40
48 429 Gramsky, Nick SR Univ. of Miami 5:06 31:46.90 41
49 65 MC Gowan, Micah SO Belmont Univ. 5:07 31:48.13 42
50 276 Kendall, Ryan FR Tn.- Chattanooga 5:07 31:49.23 43
51 397 Blanton, Jesse AR Univ. OF Georgia 5:07 31:49.46 44
52 404 Lasseter, David SR Univ. OF Georgia 5:07 31:52.64 45
53 318 Fulmer, Dean SR Univ. OF Alabama 5:07 31:52.93 46
54 93 Sprowl, Greg SO East Tennessee St. 5:08 31:54.21 47
55 26 Hansen, Brad SO Auburn Univeristy 5:08 31:54.75 48
56 501 Murray, Brian JR Univ. South Alabam 5:08 31:55.25 49
57 175 Pipia, Giovanni SR Georgia Tech 5:08 31:56.08 50
58 234 Bishop, Aaron SR Samford University 5:08 31:58.46 51
59 495 Chepkwony, Gideon SO Univ. South Alabam 5:08 31:58.71 52
60 358 Snelling, Louis SR Univ. of Cent. FL 5:09 32:00.97
61 64 MC Adams, Joshua FR Belmont Univ. 5:09 32:02.57 53
62 137 Van Den Heuvel, Maarte FR Florida State Univ 5:09 32:02.84 54
63 279 MC Lean, Kyle SR Tn.- Chattanooga 5:09 32:03.10 55
64 471 Bell, Eric SO Univ. of Tennessee 5:09 32:06.11 56
65 155 Horst, Ben SO Georgia State Univ 5:10 32:07.94 57
66 25 Emery, Ryan SO Auburn Univeristy 5:10 32:11.95 58
67 78 Wanbulwa, Charles SO Bethune-Cookman 5:11 32:15.10 59
68 373 Bowen, Donnell FR Univ. of Florida 5:11 32:16.17 60
69 27 Tunei, Victor SR Jackson State Univ 5:11 32:16.46 61
70 31 Maloney, Dave SO Auburn Univeristy 5:12 32:19.24 62
71 238 Lackey, Jason SR Samford University 5:12 32:19.66 63
72 427 Bott, Greg SR Univ. of Miami 5:12 32:22.17 64
73 237 James, Chad JR Samford University 5:12 32:22.81 65
74 90 Jones, Mitchell SR East Tennessee St. 5:12 32:23.32 66
75 178 Zins, Joey JR Georgia Tech 5:12 32:23.60 67
76 494 Carmona, Joseph FR Univ. South Alabam 5:12 32:24.29 68
77 272 Coker, David SO Tn.- Chattanooga 5:13 32:25.35 69
78 33 Titus, Giscard FR Auburn Univeristy 5:13 32:27.25 70
79 135 Stuart, Dave SO Florida State Univ 5:13 32:27.59 71
80 241 Parish, Alan SR Samford University 5:13 32:29.42 72
81 177 Williams, Brent JR Georgia Tech 5:13 32:30.36 73
82 116 Reed, Mike FR Florida Internatio 5:14 32:31.24 74
83 154 Gentiluomo, Giovanni SO Georgia State Univ 5:14 32:32.49 75
84 158 Oates, Matt JR Georgia State Univ 5:14 32:33.25 76
85 34 Wagner, Wayne JR Auburn Univeristy 5:14 32:33.47 77
86 172 Johnson, Brent SO Georgia Tech 5:14 32:33.88 78
87 62 Hayden, Justin FR Belmont Univ. 5:14 32:34.09 79
88 275 Hudnall, Thomas JR Tn.- Chattanooga 5:14 32:34.30 80
89 320 Henderson, Troy SO Univ. OF Alabama 5:14 32:36.26 81
90 291 Fesh, John JR Troy State Univ. 5:15 32:37.36
91 68 Sucher, Brian SO Belmont Univ. 5:15 32:37.61 82
92 30 Kidd, Reade FR Auburn Univeristy 5:15 32:40.27 83
93 242 Spear, Andrew SO Samford University 5:15 32:41.44 84
94 61 Bailey, Don SR Belmont Univ. 5:15 32:42.83 85
95 428 Gaulrapp, Jeff SO Univ. of Miami 5:16 32:45.40 86
96 92 Sizemore, Partick JR East Tennessee St. 5:16 32:46.34 87
97 45 Delfin, Luis JR Austin Peay St. 5:16 32:48.49 88
98 28 Nymawey, Justus JR Jackson State Univ 5:16 32:48.90 89
99 152 Brooks, Scott SR Georgia State Univ 5:17 32:49.76 90
100 176 Poliseo, Joe FR Georgia Tech 5:17 32:51.24 91
101 403 King, Joseph FR Univ. OF Georgia 5:17 32:53.07 92
102 129 Caruso, Aaron FR Florida State Univ 5:17 32:53.30 93
103 243 Thomas, Dwight JR Samford University 5:18 32:56.65 94
104 133 Maier, Michael SR Florida State Univ 5:18 32:58.16 95
105 381 Knorr, Jeremy FR Univ. of Florida 5:18 32:59.26 96
106 156 Martin, Kenneth SO Georgia State Univ 5:18 33:01.75 97
107 170 Brin, Dan SR Georgia Tech 5:19 33:07.57 98
108 75 Maina, Stanley FR Bethune-Cookman 5:20 33:08.70 99
109 111 Aguilar, Alexis JR Florida Internatio 5:20 33:08.91 100
110 496 Fisher, Gordon JR Univ. South Alabam 5:20 33:10.17 101
111 407 Tribble, Robert SO Univ. OF Georgia 5:20 33:11.99 102
112 32 Daugherty, Terrell FR Jackson State Univ 5:20 33:12.22 103
113 454 Harkema, Kevin SR Univ. of So. Fl. 5:20 33:13.23 104
114 118 Shaw, Alex SO Florida Internatio 5:20 33:14.22 105
115 113 Gutierrez, Christian JR Florida Internatio 5:21 33:17.40 106
116 69 Waldinger, Reinhard SO Belmont Univ. 5:22 33:24.08 107
117 160 Stavropoulos, Nick SO Georgia State Univ 5:23 33:29.92 108
118 431 Mahoney, Christian SR Univ. of Miami 5:23 33:32.04 109
119 398 Bryant, Chester SR Univ. OF Georgia 5:24 33:35.93 110
120 130 Heissner, Zachary SO Florida State Univ 5:26 33:46.33 111
121 207 Morales, Israel SR Jacksonville Univ. 5:26 33:46.84
122 293 Gilman, Sean SO Troy State Univ. 5:27 33:51.96
123 206 Laverty, Daniel FR Jacksonville Univ. 5:27 33:53.00
124 527 Brookshire, Michael SR Vanderbilt Univ. 5:27 33:55.27 112
125 430 Long, Brian SO Univ. of Miami 5:28 33:59.35 113
126 79 Wanyoike, Moses FR Bethune-Cookman 5:28 34:01.78 114
127 29 Mutsume, Tony JR Jackson State Univ 5:28 34:03.06 115
128 256 Kennedy, Chris SO Tennessee Tech 5:29 34:09.30 116
129 186 Cutchens, Nick JR Jacksonville State 5:29 34:10.28 117
130 259 Motta, Anthony JR Tennessee Tech 5:30 34:12.85 118
131 530 Hendrick, Alan FR Vanderbilt Univ. 5:30 34:16.04 119
132 531 Jhamb, Nith FR Vanderbilt Univ. 5:31 34:17.21 120
133 46 Downes, Jeremiah SO Austin Peay St. 5:32 34:24.00 121
134 48 Walls, Jerimiah JR Austin Peay St. 5:32 34:26.16 122
135 23 Burrell, Matt SO Auburn Univeristy 5:34 34:36.04 123
136 187 Davis, Stuart FR Jacksonville State 5:35 34:43.45 124
137 205 Barry, Kevin JR Jacksonville Univ. 5:35 34:44.42
138 49 Watson, Daniel FR Austin Peay St. 5:35 34:45.44 125
139 255 Gordon, Stephen SO Tennessee Tech 5:37 34:56.20 126
140 77 Parker, Justin FR Mercer University 5:37 34:59.08
141 131 Hicks, Ryan FR Florida State Univ 5:38 35:01.39 127
142 257 Linhoss, Sam SO Tennessee Tech 5:38 35:04.03 128
143 534 Rosenthal, Mark SR Vanderbilt Univ. 5:38 35:05.10 129
144 258 Messmer, Chad JR Tennessee Tech 5:38 35:06.33 130
145 102 Bradley, Edward SR Florida Atlantic U 5:40 35:14.97
146 188 Griffen, Shawn SR Jacksonville State 5:40 35:18.30 131
147 535 Williams, Ryan FR Vanderbilt Univ. 5:42 35:27.70 132
148 533 Oksala, Chris SO Vanderbilt Univ. 5:51 36:21.75 133
149 254 Collins, Brandon JR Tennessee Tech 5:51 36:26.28 134
150 529 Harris, Mark FR Vanderbilt Univ. 5:52 36:29.96 135
151 189 Harris, Adam SO Jacksonville State 5:52 36:31.03 136
152 76 Ngeno, Trevor FR Bethune-Cookman 5:57 37:02.25 137
153 24 Briggs, Micah JR Jackson State Univ 5:57 37:03.22 138
154 191 Laguerre, Ronnie FR Jacksonville State 6:05 37:49.32 139
155 192 Ludgood, Franklin FR Jacksonville State 6:20 39:24.94 140
156 104 Whitcher, Charles FR Florida Atlantic U 6:21 39:28.75
157 72 Cribbs-Lorrant, Terran JR Bethune-Cookman 6:27 40:10.35 141
158 103 Mazzola, Christopher FR Florida Atlantic U 6:27 40:10.69
159 43 Chase, James FR Austin Peay St. 6:44 41:55.18 142
160 193 May, Jeff JR Jacksonville State 6:46 42:07.87 143
South Florida is sandwiched between American and Brown as the 86th best program. This according to:
http://www.fasterthanforty.com/the-fairest-of-all-time-historical-ncaa-cross-country-rankings/
Pretty good with 4 NCAA appearances! Not everyone can say that. How many programs have never been to The Big Dance?
South Florida
30th in 2000
25th in 1999
30th in 1998
22nd in 1989
I'd say that's pretty darn good and worthy of what I said to open the thread. By the way, other programs on par with South Florida would be Louisville, Oklahoma, Va. Tech, Cornell, West Virginia (deceased), and Penn all with four appearances in their school history as well.
I rest my case "Mr. Busted on LR" and happy my memory serves me well.
Coach Braman deserves the credit for all those good years. He's a real good recruiter, can put together guy's who don't want to lose, and training philosophy is always based around strength-endurance. All good for XC.
Busted On LR wrote:
Glory Days wrote:http://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/4611.htmlThey were national-caliber not that long ago.
You mean back in 1992-92 with Jon(class is optional at USF) Dennis.
I don't recall Dennis being all that good in XC.