I never heard about growth hormones with braces....then I saw that Carl Lewis was wearing braces in his mid 20's.
I know this story is about Ben Johnson, but how does someone not call out Carl Lewis?
I never heard about growth hormones with braces....then I saw that Carl Lewis was wearing braces in his mid 20's.
I know this story is about Ben Johnson, but how does someone not call out Carl Lewis?
If you were actually watching you would see that some people do call out Carl Lewis.
Just watched the ESPN movie "9.79" - the Ben Johnson steroid debacle at the Seoul Olympics. A must see for track aficionados. I didn't like Carl Lewis back then and now I really don't like him. The cynic in me is proving more correct every day. Drugs are pandemic in sports, even at the amateur level.
Aside from the whole Carl & Ben...
Anyone find it disconcerting that these guys were doped to the gills and they wouldn't be an after thought today???
Love the part where the USOC gave the directive to test to see if there was a "minor problem or a huge problem" before the LA games... Then used this to figure out the proper cycling so they wouldn't get caught... An educational program, no penalties for a positive test!
How can any take this sport serious? And, I'm sure we aren't the only ones doing it - so when will they spill the beans on the backroom deals with who gets protected and who doesn't?
Ya, just finished as well. Crazy that the coach of the USA sprinters in 1988 said 80% of athletes were doing steroids. But Carl Lewis denies the whole time. Agree, I dislike Lewis more than ever.
Start at 2:00 or with Charlie Francis speaking at 2:45.
Any questions??
Toward the end the UCLA proffesor said he kept 100's of samples from the 80's and retested them using todays's knowledge.....he said that the results were surprising and that it was best he didnt mention the names and the results. I would bet he had dirt on Carl Lewis.
EmperorsClothes wrote:
so when will they spill the beans on the backroom deals with who gets protected and who doesn't?
These days? No one.
anyone know if its online anywhere or if there will be a replay???
It doesn't matter anymore.
Doper losers like Ben and Charlie love the attention, so I prefer to withhold it.
coach d wrote:
Any questions??
Why would you believe the babblings of an idiot unless you were one yourself?
Ben Johnson came off as a massive douche bag. Even though I already knew about the drug tests he failed.
All the sprinters came across as douches except the brazilian guy IMO. Watching this makes me think differently about the sport. It appears everyone cheats, and it's very easy not to get caught. They spiked Ben Johnson's drink at many major track meets, and it took years before he got caught.
BRG/253 wrote:
It doesn't matter anymore.
Doper losers like Ben and Charlie love the attention, so I prefer to withhold it.
Use past tense for Charlie
wccelder wrote:
Use past tense for Charlie
lulz that occurred to me
BRG/253 wrote:
coach d wrote:Any questions??
Why would you believe the babblings of an idiot unless you were one yourself?
Only someone ignorant about sprinting would call Charlie Francis an idiot. He was a cheater but he knew exactly what he was doing and why.
holbythebear wrote:
It appears everyone cheats, and it's very easy not to get caught.
Yeah, 25 years ago when there was no out of competition testing, no whereabouts rule and no biological passport. The noose has tightened immeasurably since then. It's still possible to take something and evade detection, but it's much, much harder.
I thought Calvin Smith came across OK. I might actually believe that he was not on steroids.
The shocking part was that 6 of the 8 ended up caught for doping or dealing steroids. The only ones who didn't were Calvin Smith and the Brazilian guy.
Oh, I count Carl's positive test despite USOC clearing him of it.
BostonRunner2 wrote:
I thought Calvin Smith came across OK. I might actually believe that he was not on steroids.
The shocking part was that 6 of the 8 ended up caught for doping or dealing steroids. The only ones who didn't were Calvin Smith and the Brazilian guy.
Absolutely.