He ran 2:11:52 To Win The Sydney Marathon And Break The CR By Almost 3 Minutes (which was just three weeks after winning the hot and humid Hokkaido Marathon in 2:18:38).
6 Days later, he runs a 3:50 1,500 which is a 6+ second PB.
Next day he runs a 13:58 5000 PB.
Unreal.
More here:
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2012/09/kawauchi-runs-double-1500-m-and-5000-m.html
Someone please, get this guy a coach. Unreal potential.
yup and im running a 100 mile ultra tomorrow in the hills of japan
kanata wrote:
Someone please, get this guy a coach. Unreal potential.
Kawauchi last month talking about having a coach:
"When I walked out from under a coach two years ago I thought, "Now that I'm alone I'm no longer alone," and I really believe that the benefits of having done this have been huge."
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.jp/2012/08/a-group-of-overflowing-with.htmlyou're questioning his ability to train himself after a 2:11 + 2 track PBs in less than a week??? that's unreal.
kanata wrote:
Someone please, get this guy a coach. Unreal potential.
It's still weird to think that Kawauchi has a faster marathon PR than Ritz, who has ran 12:56 for 5k and 60:00 for the half marathon. Hopefully that means Ritz can go 2:05 - 2:06.
His 5K PR is totally irrelevant. Tadese has PR's of 26:37 and 58:23, times Ritz will never run, yet his PR is only 2:10:41 for the full marathon. Kawauchi is probably more talented than Ritz. Ritz breaks down from just marathon training whereas Kawauchi can run two impressive marathons within 3 weeks of each other, then do these performances and still not be injured, while having a full time job that's not just running.
Is there any detailed information about Kawauchi's training out there? Given that he works full time and is an "amateur" runner he really is an inspiration to many on these boards. The only thing that I can gather is that he races a ton. So perhaps it's just races as workouts and steady running in between?
True, true.
This guy is simply brilliant. He really is an inspiration and just a kicka$$ runner in general.
His training is posted in other threads and interviews online. Typical Lydiard variation.
Is it even possible that he's not doping?
This is perhaps the best article I can find on the internet about Kawauchi's training I am not a Lydiard expert so I am not sure whether it is typical Lydiard variation training (would be grateful for your insights):
http://runningtimes.com/Print.aspx?articleID=24166
The details he gives on his training are: "I average 80 miles a week with two hard workouts, one speed session and one long run on the weekend." "The rest of the days are easy. It's not really different from what other amateurs do, and since my mileage is pretty low I think most people could fit it into a normal work schedule."
I not sure what the speed session would be, km reps or how easy his easy days are ?
The article has some great quotes from Kawauchi:
"People have been telling me, 'You should do more scientific training, you should do altitude training.' I don't do any of that," he says.
"Japanese corporate runners watch their weight to within 0.1 kg. I eat whatever I like. I don't do any taping or take supplements. I don't breathe low-oxygen air. I don't wear magnetic necklaces. I guess in that way I'm old-school. I run, I work hard, and I like it. I read up, thought about what I needed to do, and found what works for me. There's no reason Americans can't do the same thing. It's worthwhile spending money on things that will help your training, but spending money itself isn't going to make you better."
Why would it be impossible to do a 2:11 and not be physically capable of a 3:50 1500 and a 13:58 5000?
The only impressive time out of the 3 is the 2:11, the other two times are done by teenage African's and Americans yearly.
And there it is folks, the first negative post on a topic that is only positive. Surprised it took this long.
I wouldn't classify the post as negative as much as the poster just taking a step back from the oddity of this guys racing schedule and being objective about what his times indicate. It's not negative to point out his Marathon time is the best of the three times. It's just true. Don't get too carried away with the 1500 and 5k PRs since the times themselves wouldn't make any news if they weren't PRs for this guy with such a cool story.
O.o wrote:
Why would it be impossible to do a 2:11 and not be physically capable of a 3:50 1500 and a 13:58 5000?
The only impressive time out of the 3 is the 2:11, the other two times are done by teenage African's and Americans yearly.
Teenage African's what?
oh yeah, back in high school.. wrote:
And there it is folks, the first negative post on a topic that is only positive. Surprised it took this long.
It was actually a positive response to the real first negative post -- the one about doping.
ronner wrote:
I wouldn't classify the post as negative as much as the poster just taking a step back from the oddity of this guys racing schedule and being objective about what his times indicate. It's not negative to point out his Marathon time is the best of the three times. It's just true. Don't get too carried away with the 1500 and 5k PRs since the times themselves wouldn't make any news if they weren't PRs for this guy with such a cool story.
The times themselves aren't really the point. The point is that he ran them right after a hard marathon effort.
Running a 3-50 1500m just 6 days after a 2-11 marathon is impressive.
Often, athletic performances should be looked at in context. For example Farah's 52/3 second last lap at the end of the olympics 10k was hugely impressive even though probably hundreds of high schoolers run faster for a 400m each year.
That said, it does look as though Kawauchi has a pretty crazy racing schedule. I hope he doesn't get seriously injured because his running career is highly entertaining to follow.
Euro Runner wrote:
Running a 3-50 1500m just 6 days after a 2-11 marathon is impressive.
Often, athletic performances should be looked at in context. For example Farah's 52/3 second last lap at the end of the olympics 10k was hugely impressive even though probably hundreds of high schoolers run faster for a 400m each year.
That said, it does look as though Kawauchi has a pretty crazy racing schedule. I hope he doesn't get seriously injured because his running career is highly entertaining to follow.
Are you really trying to equate the last lap of a race to a separate race 6 days later? That is the exact opposite of "context."