Aries Merritt in the the 100m

There are NO hurdlers like that, or they wouldn't be doing hurdles. Maybe the only true exception to this was Gail Deavers. Sally is VERY fast for a female hurdler, but would have no chance against Fraser-Pryce or Jeter in an open 100. Same with the men.

Merritt has an official PB of 21.46 in the 200. Compare with Terrence Trammell who ran something like 10.07--but not close to Merritt now in the hurdles.

The guy himself said he could run 10.1 - 10.2

He would get rocked in an open 100.

He could probably be 10 flat, 19.9. He's faster than he looks but the hurdler start hurts his 100. If he could get rolling like in a 200, he would do well, only problem there is the curve, but running a curve at speed is not that big of a problem compared to accelerating to top end in a 100.

10:50 with blocks combined with superb technique.

bee afra wrote:

He could probably be 10 flat, 19.9. He's faster than he looks but the hurdler start hurts his 100. If he could get rolling like in a 200, he would do well, only problem there is the curve, but running a curve at speed is not that big of a problem compared to accelerating to top end in a 100.

there is a big difference between 10 flat and 19.9. I beleive he can go 10 flat, but if he's 20.5 that would be a good start. Thats like saying he's a 1:42 800, 26:50 10k guy.

Harrison Dillard was the Olympic 100 m champ, after being eliminated in the 110 h, where he was the devending champ, finished 3 rd int he final of the 100. He won the Olympics. Afger, he went back to the hurdles and set WRs.

You may run at 10.5 pace in a 110 hurdle, but that's an artifact of the discipline of the event. 3 strides and getting your foot down. 10 times - maintianing the same stride length from the first hurdle to the finish. I suspect he's closer to 10 flat now, and who knows what he could do if he focused on it. A month of reeducating his racing and he'd be quicker.

bee afra wrote:

He could probably be 10 flat, 19.9. He's faster than he looks but the hurdler start hurts his 100. If he could get rolling like in a 200, he would do well, only problem there is the curve, but running a curve at speed is not that big of a problem compared to accelerating to top end in a 100.

there is a big difference between 10 flat and 19.9. I beleive he can go 10 flat, but if he's 20.5 that would be a good start. Thats like saying he's a 1:42 800, 26:50 10k guy.

Harrison Dillard was the Olympic 100 m champ, after being eliminated in the 110 h, where he was the devending champ, finished 3 rd int he final of the 100. He won the Olympics. After, he went back to the hurdles and set WRs.

You may run at 10.5 pace in a 110 hurdle, but that's an artifact of the discipline of the event. 3 strides and getting your foot down. 10 times - maintianing the same stride length from the first hurdle to the finish. I suspect he's closer to 10 flat now, and who knows what he could do if he focused on it. A month of reeducating his racing and he'd be quicker.

bee afra wrote:

He could probably be 10 flat, 19.9. He's faster than he looks but the hurdler start hurts his 100. If he could get rolling like in a 200, he would do well, only problem there is the curve, but running a curve at speed is not that big of a problem compared to accelerating to top end in a 100.

there is a big difference between 10 flat and 19.9. I believe he can go 10 flat, but if he's 20.5 that would be a good start. Thats like saying he's a 1:42 800, 26:50 10k guy.

Harrison Dillard was the Olympic 100 m champ, after being eliminated in the 110 h, where he was the devending champ, finished 3 rd int he final of the 100. He won the Olympics. After, he went back to the hurdles and set WRs.

You may run at 10.5 pace in a 110 hurdle, but that's an artifact of the discipline of the event. 3 strides and getting your foot down. 10 times - maintianing the same stride length from the first hurdle to the finish. I suspect he's closer to 10 flat now, and who knows what he could do if he focused on it. A month of reeducating his racing and he'd be quicker.

Electriclance wrote:

there is a big difference between 10 flat and 19.9. I believe he can go 10 flat, but if he's 20.5 that would be a good start. Thats like saying he's a 1:42 800, 26:50 10k guy.

Are you insane? 100 guys run 200s, 800 guys don't compete in 10ks. That's one of the worst comparisons i've seen on here.

Does anybody have any evidence that a super-fast 110mH is actually run at 10.5 pace? At top speed, I mean. I doubt it very much, but I'm open to being convinced.

Merritt could in no way be competitive in the open 100.

IMHO, RIGHT NOW, if he lined up in an open 100 and had a great race, he would run something just a bit slower than Spearmon, so around the 10.3x range.

After a bit of specific training and shaking off hurdle habits, I think he could get down to 10.1x relatively quickly.

After a huge amount of specific training, I would guess that he would max out at mid-high 10.0x to around 10.10

Without his current doping regimen, he would be a 10.5x flat 100 guy, at best, after years of training.

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Are you insane? 100 guys run 200s, 800 guys don't compete in 10ks. That's one of the worst comparisons i've seen on here.[/quote]

I know. Almost as bad as the time this one idiot said Lincoln, Nebraska is a high-altitude location.

Coach, remember Renaldo Nehemiah. Arguably the fastest man on earth in his prime. I ran against him at the Penn Relays and was there when he made two of the fastest sprinters in the Country look like they were standing still in the finals.

coach d wrote:

There are NO hurdlers like that, or they wouldn't be doing hurdles. Maybe the only true exception to this was Gail Deavers. Sally is VERY fast for a female hurdler, but would have no chance against Fraser-Pryce or Jeter in an open 100. Same with the men.

Merritt has an official PB of 21.46 in the 200. Compare with Terrence Trammell who ran something like 10.07--but not close to Merritt now in the hurdles.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Does anybody have any evidence that a super-fast 110mH is actually run at 10.5 pace? At top speed, I mean. I doubt it very much, but I'm open to being convinced.

Merritt could in no way be competitive in the open 100.

IMHO, RIGHT NOW, if he lined up in an open 100 and had a great race, he would run something just a bit slower than Spearmon, so around the 10.3x range.

After a bit of specific training and shaking off hurdle habits, I think he could get down to 10.1x relatively quickly.

After a huge amount of specific training, I would guess that he would max out at mid-high 10.0x to around 10.10

Without his current doping regimen, he would be a 10.5x flat 100 guy, at best, after years of training.

Do we (you) have irrefutable evidence of doping? If so please provide the source and/or source documents, not a hodge podge of what you "think" constitutes evidence. Or are you assuming that his kidney issues are evidence enough? From what I've read, by most if not all accounts its pretty clear the kidney issues are not doping related.

Sprintgeezer has since left these boards, thank god.

lol he may have left, but he was right

dude had a bunch of posts where he cricified merritt, now we have this kidney issue

sg was a smart guy who wasn't afraid to speak unpopular truth, i wish he was still around

Merritt has bests of 6.96 for the 60m and 21.31 for the 200. Those were done a while back, but are indicators of his base speed. He was a 13.2-13-4 110H guy when he ran those sprint times.

whatever he might be able to run for the 100m, he has averaged 11.64 100m for 110m over high hurdles (of course, that's just multiplying 12.80 by 100/110, which is unfair). That is just unfathomable.

exthrower wrote:

Good drugs, huh? Both Merritt\'s are drug cheats and merit no respect.

Source documents?

Probably the fastest hurdler ever was Terrence Trammell. He ran 6.45 for 60 and 12.95. At his best, he would have won the world indoor 60m the last time.

His 100m PB was 10.04. If he (or Merritt) could have run 9.84, he wouldn't be hurdling any more, because the money difference between the 110H and 100m is enormous.

Willie Gault ran a legal 10.10 (+1.9). His 9.8 was hand timed.