Jamaica 4x100m WR 36.84!!!!!!!!

USA 2nd in NR 37.04

CAN 3rd in 38.07

Incredible for gold and silver!

Impressive that Canada got the bronze, I had picked T&T. 38.07 isn't that great a time, though.

Analyze it Geezer

Excellent, Canada has been disqualified, meaning that my picks were perfect.

although to be fair, gold and silver were easy

My analysis?

HOLY CRAP.

This is proof positive that we have officially entered another era, and that it only happened recently.

36.84, and 37.04 both absolutely CRUSH the great 37.40 WR that was set by some historic US teams, which is especially great when you consider that Burrell and Lewis were both mid-9.8x guys, Mitchell was a low 9.9x guy, and Marsh was always credible.

Really, both of those performances are incredible.

Not to mention Canada's 37.69 relay in 1996, having both Surin and Bailey, both mid-9.8 guys, and 2 other reliable, near-10-flat guys.

These teams in London are REALLY deep.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

My analysis?

HOLY CRAP.

This is proof positive that we have officially entered another era, and that it only happened recently.

36.84, and 37.04 both absolutely CRUSH the great 37.40 WR that was set by some historic US teams, which is especially great when you consider that Burrell and Lewis were both mid-9.8x guys, Mitchell was a low 9.9x guy, and Marsh was always credible.

Really, both of those performances are incredible.

Wasn't the previous WR 37.04, set by Jamaica?

Regardless, great race.

Wasn't the previous WR 37.04, set by Jamaica?

Regardless, great race.

I'm sure he meant previously held WR.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Excellent, Canada has been disqualified, meaning that my picks were perfect.

although to be fair, gold and silver were easy

So you'd rather get your picks right then have your country (since you've said your canadian) get a remarkable bronze medal You sir are a c0cksucker.

Good exchanges on the US team were their best hope of a medal. That said, Bailey on the anchor leg was a bit of genius because having watched the race a few times, there's no way Bolt would have made up the gap on him if he'd come in more than 2m down.

Two key takeaways:

1.

Bailey has surprisingly good top speed but doesn't have Bolt's grace or acceleration. If he manages to add that to his repertoire or at least improve it a tad he'll be a damn dangerous sprinter.

2.

A 36.5x time is possible under better conditions and with a better Jamaican team.

Uh, yes, I thought that was obvious.

My point was that even though Jam has gone 37.10 and 37.04 this sub-37 has ushered in a new realm, especially since the Americans just equalled the recent WR.

Thinking back to great relay teams, the 37.40 teams must come to mind immediately.

These 2 teams absolutely blow them away. Those 37.40 teams had pretty great handoffs, maybe better than these teams in London, I can't remember exactly.

Jam was only hinting at what was possible while they were running 37.x Now that 36.x is a fact, and that somebody else actually came close, we have arrived.

Jamaican dominance in the 100m is complete. For me, it is all about the relay, not the individual 100m.

Think about this: Jam could have run with a healthy Powell, and done the same thing. Jam could have run with Ashmeade, and done the same thing. What about Lee? I mean, come on, THAT is dominance.

It was obvious that Gay hasn't been at his best in these Games, and that a smoking Gay would have gotten the USA closer, even possibly .20 closer, although that would be asking a lot. The USA is incredibly deep, too, and might have performed as well using Rodgers or a healthy Dix.

I was totally impressed by Bailey as USA anchor...a quicker first 3 steps with the baton, and he would have been VERY close to Bolt.

I was thinking it before the race, although I didn't say it, and I can't help but think it now: I might have pulled Gay and put Demps on the curve! Both crap handoffs in Monaco involved Gay--one because he didn't get away quickly enough, one because he had difficulty planting the baton in a bad target...but both involved Gay. Also, Gay was gripping in the 100m final, something I've never seen him do before, running with his hands closed.

Demps is young, hungry, has proven he can run a curve, and is nails on the relay. He could absolutely get out faster than Gay and make for a better second exchange. (I thought that Gay could get away better and make for a smoother 2nd here than in Monaco, given his start in the 100m, but oh well) But, how could Gay reasonably have been denied a spot on that team? If there is anybody who has earned it, it is him. Demps will have his chances.

Plus, it remains to be seen if Gay actually underperformed. He WAS going up against a guy who owned him in the open 100m, all that owning having been done after 30m--that is, while running at speed, which is relevant to the relay.

Ultimately, I think it was a drag for the USA to have been running just outside Jamaica, and to Jamaica's great advantage. I don't think that Jam would have run this time, had they not had the USA to read off.

T&T, incredible result from the wilderness of the outside lane, damn good for them!

Canada DQ sucks for Warner, he ran a beautiful anchor.

Plus, I told you guys that Frater would not represent any deficit over Powell! Frater is just great on 2nd--he's reliably as fast as anybody on that leg, and he never botches handoffs, and he never gets injured, and he never, EVER, flakes out mentally.

Carter ran well too, when he is compared to Kimmons. I thought that Carter might be the potential weak spot, and that he would need to run very well in order for them to go under 37

Bolt did the mo-bot to celebrate!

Sprintgeezer wrote:These 2 teams absolutely blow them away. Those 37.40 teams had pretty great handoffs, maybe better than these teams in London, I can't remember exactly

idiot

those 37.40 teams underperformed

the theoretical time shoud be

~

relay = sum of times - 2.6

a team of 4 guys at 10.00 shoud expect 37.40, but the sum total of those teams were better than 4 guys of 10.00, so they underperformed

this 36.84 equates to an average of 4 guys of 9.86

Where did you get the 2.6 from? Your a$$?

idiot

from analysing the sum of 3 flying legs + 2 slower curve runs

ROTFLMAO

He is awesome, isn't he?

I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.

"should be"

ROTFLMAO

C3PO-Zoooommm!!!

"So you'd rather get your picks right then have your country (since you've said your canadian) get a remarkable bronze medal"

Correct.

Nationality is really an awful, but historically convenient, basis on which to create an athletic team. The same way that I don't care if an athlete is black or white, I don't care what country they come from, either.

NOT AT ALL, except situations when they come from a country that has instituted a national-level program that sacrifices the health interests of the individual on the altar of state propaganda, because that situation is the most extreme example of distinguishing athletes based on nationality.

I have no bias regarding Canadian athletes, one way or another. I have known many. Some are clean, some are dirty, some are nice, some are a-holes, some are theists, some are atheists, some are individualists, some are collectivists, some are black, some are white, some are anglophones, some are francophones, some are rich, some are poor.

The only thing they have in common, really, is being subject to Canadian law, which they all break in varing degrees.

Nothing against Canada, but I have known people from T&T, as well. I like their 4x100 team, more than I like the Canadian 4x100 team. If Connaughton did step on the inside line, they broke the rules and deserve to be disqualified, if that is the decision. If they had gotten bronze, I would be rejoicing for them, as I began to do before I realized that they had been DQ'd.

But they didn't, and I'm not, and T&T deserved the bronze.

4 times minus 2.5 seconds is a fairly common number for sprint coaches to use as a goal for their 4x1 teams.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Excellent, Canada has been disqualified, meaning that my picks were perfect.

although to be fair, gold and silver were easy

Wtf is wrong with you? Every post you make is in some way you bragging of yourself for being able to predict the winner of the most obvious races.

Hey, I predicted bolt would win 100m and 200m, give me a medal.

Sprintgeezer wrote:"should be"

ROTFLMAO

C3PO-Zoooommm!!!

moron

some posters are more interested in absolute potential than the 3rd rate drivel you offer as comment

if i had average of 4 guys of running 9.95, i'd expect upto

37.20

so times like 37.40 from past were underperformances you idiot