Did 40x200 today with 2:30 recovery. The first 1:20-1:25 of the recovery was 210 meters jogging, and the remainder of the recovery was writing splits + standing around for 2:30 to be up.
Averaged 28.79 for the 40 200s. Slowest one was #24 (29.35) and the fastest was #40 (27.63) which was all-out.
What 800/1500 shape does this workout suggest I'm in?
Why the hell would you do that workout?
too much recovery. these are basically strides. i would give you 1:56/3:59 at best.
They sure didn't feel like strides.
And I did this workout because my training partner suggested we do it for his 25th birthday.
ian edwards wrote:
They sure didn't feel like strides.
then I'd give you 1:57/4:05
F. Standford & Sons wrote:
ian edwards wrote:They sure didn't feel like strides.
then I'd give you 1:57/4:05
The 800 is 6 seconds faster than my pr, and the 1500 is 3 seconds slower.
800: 1:54
1500: 3:56
full mile: 3:59
That's a badass workout. I don't know what you can run based on it though.
Recovery? As long as all 20 are done within 50 minutes there is no recovery what so ever, Jogging rests are stupid for anything below a 5000.
shootmice wrote:
800: 1:54
1500: 3:56
full mile: 3:59
tigel smees
I would say no faster than 2:03.39 and 4:02.29.
ian edwards wrote:
Did 40x200 today with 2:30 recovery. The first 1:20-1:25 of the recovery was 210 meters jogging, and the remainder of the recovery was writing splits + standing around for 2:30 to be up.
Averaged 28.79 for the 40 200s. Slowest one was #24 (29.35) and the fastest was #40 (27.63) which was all-out.
What 800/1500 shape does this workout suggest I'm in?
What age are you? How much mileage are you doing in addition?
2 hours of recovery sounds like my kind of workout.
I think you can run 1:47
ian edwards wrote:
They sure didn't feel like strides.
And I did this workout because my training partner suggested we do it for his 25th birthday.
I suggest you find a new training partner.
I can assure you no one posting has ever attempted that workout. But truthfully it does not show much of anything other than you are really conditioned.
I am detecting someone that is just making shit up. But I will give you the benifit of the doubt.
When New Bern broke the HS National Record in the indoor 4x4 their coach said they did a workout that fall where they did 30x200 at 32 seconds with a 2 min rest. By outdoor they ran 3:08. Two of those athletes could run sub 1:50 in the 800. And 45 and 46 in the 400. But unless you are naturally as fast as them lets throw the 400 results out. If you could do that you would probably be sub 1:53.
HOWEVER I think your full of BS because you stated they did not feel like striders. If the first one did not feel like a strider, then after about 10 you would probably start running 32-35 seconds if not worse.
sure... wrote:
HOWEVER I think your full of BS because you stated they did not feel like striders. If the first one did not feel like a strider, then after about 10 you would probably start running 32-35 seconds if not worse.
I would agree that I am really conditioned. And about them not feeling likes strides.. To me, a stride is like a 50 meter burst. Which is much easier than 200 meters at 29 seconds. But the second 20 200 were much harder than the first 20.
Old School Defined wrote:
What age are you? How much mileage are you doing in addition?
I'm 20. Will be 21 in september.
My last 12 weeks of mileage are 100, 96, 74, 140, 140, 136, 123, 122, 116, 200, 100, 143.
The 100 is this past week, and it goes backwards to the first week of may. I've been doing 2-3 speed workouts a week since then as well.
This to me shows that you can run well in cross country, because you don't get tired at speed. But the rest is far too long to assess 800/1500 other than to get a sense for what 200 speed is comfortably hard for you. Just do something like 10x400m w/1 minute rest for your 1500m predictor and on another day maybe a hard 600m, 45s rest, hard 200m for the 800m predictor. You did the hard 600 in 1:28 recently, right?
ian edwards wrote:
Did 40x200 today with 2:30 recovery. The first 1:20-1:25 of the recovery was 210 meters jogging, and the remainder of the recovery was writing splits + standing around for 2:30 to be up.
Averaged 28.79 for the 40 200s. Slowest one was #24 (29.35) and the fastest was #40 (27.63) which was all-out.
What 800/1500 shape does this workout suggest I'm in?
Impossible to know. Terrible workout. Try cutting the recoveries down to 100 meters of walking.
in running with the buffalo they do a workout where they do as many 30 second 200s with 30 second brakes as possible before they cant do that anymore.