Ivy League Mid Distance/XC recruting classes???

Tiger's got Josh Wolfe (1:50 800m runner), Rob Grote (9:00 3200m) and Frank Tinney (9:06 for 3200m).

Dartmouth got Ben True (5th at FL Nationals) and Micheal Carmody (48.0, 1:49.)

Ryan Hafer 17th at FL-MW is going to Harvard. Why, I have no idea, but he is going there.

Harry Norton (3:52 1500M) to Dartmouth

James Wyner (4:11 NJ state champ/1:53) to Cornell

Columbia

Liam Boylan-Pett (4:10/1:51)

based on dyestat and may 13th here is what I could find this is just the people not a summary of accomplishments but I thought it would be helpful just to ghave a full list

Brown

Brown Brown, Alexandra NY Kingston distance

Brown Crossin, Becky NJ N. Hunterdon distance

Brown Enscoe, Alex CA Berkeley distance

Brown Myers, Ozzie NY Chittenango distance

Brown Sarro, Nick MA Chatham distance

Brown Zamir, Ari NJ Ridgewood distance

Columbia

Columbia Belt, Rachel WA Bainbridge distance

Columbia Boylan-Pett, Liam MI Bath distance

Columbia Hughes, Greg NJ Mainland distance

Columbia Iyoha, Osamuede MI Pioneer AA ?

Columbia Kennedy, Anne CA Santa Barbara distance

Columbia Leland, Shelby CA Ukiah distance

Columbia Rathbun, Jonah WA Lakeside distance

Cornell

Cornell Ashbrook, Ben MA Newton South ?

Cornell Baker, Neil CAN Thousand Island 400m

Cornell Brown, James IL New Trier ?

Cornell Canady, Sage OR Newberg distance

Cornell Rupley, Devon MI Northville distance

Cornell Sensenig, Betsy PA Ephrata distance

Cornell Smayda, Michael NY White Plains 800

Cornell Walsh, Joe OR Jesuit distance

Cornell Wyner, James NJ Mainland distance

Dartmouth

Dartmouth Allen, Grant PA Eisenhower distance

Dartmouth Carmody, Michael NJ Gov. Livingston 800m

Dartmouth Davis, Matt OR Mountain View distance

Dartmouth Gottesfeld, Ian PA Henderson WC distance

Dartmouth Haines, Greg PA Eisenhower distance

Dartmouth Lloyd, Brian CT Darien distance

Dartmouth Norton, Harry NH Phillips Exeter distance

Dartmouth True, Ben ME Greely Cumberland distance

Harvard

Harvard Green, Christopher CT Berlin mid-distance

Harvard Lu, Haibo PA North Penn mid-distance

Harvard Pollinger, Zac NJ ??

Harvard Scherf, Lindsey NY Scarsdale distance

Penn

Pennsylvania Auwaerter, Carolyn PA Great Valley mid-distance

Pennsylvania Bowles, Eric PA Upper Dublin 800

Pennsylvania Carlin, Jesse NY St. Joseph-Sea 400/800

Pennsylvania Contrella, Larry MD Old Mill distance

Pennsylvania Goldberg, Brian NJ Haddonfield distance

Pennsylvania Guzman, John NJ Bridgewater-Raritan distance

Pennsylvania Kaijala, Tim MI Mona Shores 800/mile

Pennsylvania Lovejoy, Mike WA Seattle Prep distance

Pennsylvania McEwen, Reid CT New Milford mid-distance

Pennsylvania McGrath, Kelly PA Gwynedd Mercy distance

Pennsylvania Riley, Nick CA Berkeley distance

Pennsylvania Snow, Graham CT Danbury 800/mile

Princeton

Princeton Anderson, Katy PA Great Valley mid-distance

Princeton Bergold, Liz NY Bronxville mid-distance

Princeton Dennison, Katheryn TN Harpeth Hall Nashville distance

Princeton Grote, Rob IN Batesville distance

Princeton Iatauro, Heather NY Tri-Valley distance

Princeton Jovanovic, Jovan IL Maine East

Princeton Kuehne, Kurt MD Urbana distance

Princeton McTague, Caitlin NY Niskayuna distance

Princeton Nightingale, David CT Loomis Chaffee distance

Princeton O'Neill, Tim PA St. Joseph's distance

Princeton O'Toole, James PA Mt. Lebanon Pittsburgh distance

Princeton Rinderle, Amanda MA Amherst distance

Princeton Tinney, Frank MI Huron AA distance

Princeton Wolfe, Josh MA Phillips Andover distance

Yale

Yale Bordoni, Matthew CA Los Altos 800

Yale Boucher, Betsy CT Fitch Groton distance

Yale Hoeg, Alex TX Friendswood distance

Yale Kilpatric, Connor WA Seattle Prep distance

Yale Kingsbery, Joe NJ Red Bank Reg distance

Yale O'Callaghan, Tadhg IRELAND Cork distance

Yale Smitson, Chris IN Brebeuf Jesuit 800

Yale Sproll, Ingrid CAN St. Mary's Winnipeg 400/800

Yale Tingue, Chris NY Ward Melville sprints, mid-distance

looking at the Penn list

Guzman is 1:54/4:20

Kaijala is the indoor MI state champion 1:53/4:19

McEwen 4:22

Snow 1:54/4:20 CT state champion

and also Dan Howard, VA state champion (4:14)

As the coach at Cornell, i would like to state for the record that it drives me nuts that there is such an obsession with 'who got what in recruiting' from other highschoolers.

It makes little sense to me. Far too often, people look at who got who and assume that team is going to be great. My take, yes recruiting is important but unless people are improving it's not going to matter.

I mean there is a kick-ass bunch of studs coming into the league this year. Highschoolers seem to thing that is a new phenomenon. It's not. Kick-ass studs come into the league every year.

Let's look at the best of them. They are generally around 411-12 in the mile and 905-910 in the deuce.

What does that do for you in college? Not much.

411-12 for 1600 is about 413-14 in the full mile which is a good time but not all that significant in college. I mean I think i had 6 guys that fast indoors in the mile (413 or better) and three others outdoors who were like 356 guys but probably could run 353 if it was there event and we focused on it.

It's even more ridiculous in the deuce. 906 is great in higschool. Probably something like 830 for 3k. I had a guy run 825 for 3k and we didn't even take him to conference (he's only run 828 before conference).

I guess it's fine to obsess over it but to me a more important thing would be to obsess over it 4 years later.

Someone keep that big list and then we can go through it and see whos improved, whos accomplished what.

AM Runner wrote:

Harvard

Harvard Pollinger, Zac NJ ??

Racewalk.

What six guys would they be and what "other 3" different guys from Outdoors?I see 3 guys who scratched right at 4:13.00 or slightly lower,indoors.

I am a 4:22 miler, and I'm headed to Columbia next year. However, the coach doesn't know I exist, and I can't decide if I want to run or not.

Flagpole Admirer,

Run,

Running for the team at Columbia was something that i would never trade in a million years. If you have the means....I highly recommend it.....it is so choice.

Gibbons

Take it from someone who ran 4:19 in HS in the 1600 and 3:41 for the 1500 in college -- give yourself a shot

Flagpole Admirer wrote:

I am a 4:22 miler, and I'm headed to Columbia next year. However, the coach doesn't know I exist, and I can't decide if I want to run or not.

Flagpole Admirer (nice name),

Go for it dude. A 4:22 high school miler shows some promise, and you never know what your upside is. Go for it!

gibbons,

nice ferris bueller line....

Thanks for the support guys, I'll definitely keep it in mind!

'dogs wrote:

Ryan Hafer 17th at FL-MW is going to Harvard. Why, I have no idea, but he is going there.

yeah, i can't think of a single logical reason to go to harvard. especially considering he could go to school for free at the local juco.

Do it, I ran 4:23 for the 1600 in high school and ended up running 4:06 by my sophomre year, do it

Do it. I ran 3:53 for the mile my senior year in high school and have run 3:32 since. I highly recommend it.

Steve Sundell ran 4:22 in high school and went to Columbia and won the 2003 indoor 5000m, 2003 outdoor 5000m, 2004 indoor 3000m, 2004 indoor 5000m, 2004 outdoor 5000m and 2003 XC individual title. In addition, he qualified to the NCAA's on four occassions.