I can't believe Rupp is in sub 12:50 shape

Why don't you just follow the sport, and enjoy it and see what happens.

The reason you cant believe it is because he isnt nearly in sub 12:50 shape. I say he would have run around 12:55 today at his absolute best. Gebremeskel closed his last 400 only 2 seconds slower than Rupp while running 12:46!!! Not some slow ass 13:22 race

gooseegg wrote:

The reason you cant believe it is because he isnt nearly in sub 12:50 shape. I say he would have run around 12:55 today at his absolute best. Gebremeskel closed his last 400 only 2 seconds slower than Rupp while running 12:46!!! Not some slow ass 13:22 race

I think you're wrong. He could have stayed with them to the end. Even if hs last lap was 60-61, it would have been worth an American Record. I think he could have run anywhere from 12:48 to 12:53 today. But likely closer to 12:50, not 12:55.

All we know is Rupp closed a 13:22 in 52.5. Never seen that in an American born runner (and don't forget coming off a pretty easy 27:25. If he is there in the last lap in the Olympics he has a shot. Probably not to win but for a medal. What do you want him to do? He's at a world class level after the game changed in the mid 1990's and can run fast when tired.

That last lap in the 5000 is amazing to me in that until the last 50 he didn't look like he was sprinting all out. Look at the famous 1971 European 10k and 5k champs where the Finn closed in 53. They were gritting and sprinting from the bell and Rupp was floating until he was passed close to the finish.

Kennedy was great but was never going to break 54 in even a 13:30 race.

I respect your opinions but I just cant foresee any situation in which Rupp could have kept up the last few laps with these guys. I'm sure he would have PR'd probably running around 12:55, but no way in hell he'd be sub 12:50. Those guys are light years ahead of him like the Ethiopean Almirew who ran 7:27 3K indoors!! Rupp couldnt touch that time and Almirew finally got the 5K right and it showed big time. Rupp barely broke 13 at Pre, yet you honestly think he's ready to close the last kilometer in 2:26 while running around 12:52 pace? Yeah right, he's currently on par about with Bekele so 12:55 would have been a great race for Rupp if he were in it today. I think its safe to say that the Africans proved today why they are the best in the business and will hoard the medals at the Olympics

Halftight88 wrote:

Those guys are light years ahead of him like the Ethiopean Almirew who ran 7:27 3K indoors!! Rupp couldnt touch that time and Almirew finally got the 5K right and it showed big time. Rupp barely broke 13 at Pre, yet you honestly think he's ready to close the last kilometer in 2:26 while running around 12:52 pace? Yeah right, he's currently on par about with Bekele so 12:55 would have been a great race for Rupp if he were in it today.

Wow, just wow. Why are these guys "light years ahead of him"? Because you say so? You do understand that these are two guys that Rupp beat handily at Pre, right? I don't understand why you're so convinced that Rupp couldn't run 12:50? Because he only ran 12:58 at Pre? Almirew ran 13:06 at Pre. Based on what everyone who ran at Pre, and also ran here,ran, I'd say 12:50 is just about right. And those are based on facts, not opinion.

Um... Joe Falcon could have done that..and Im not kidding. He ran 54 off 13:20, like it was nothing

Isaiah Koech finished only 1 or 2 seconds ahead of Rupp at Pre running about 12:56. Today Koech ran 12:48. Do the math.

Prefontaine had significant winds going through Hayward Field. 12:58 at Pre = about 12:50 in very good conditions (like Paris today).

you cant base what he could run at his absolute fastest on what he did in that race. he was running to win not to break a record. wait until he gets into a faster race to see what he can actually do. based on his extraordinary level of talent and his years of hard work with some of the greatest coaches and training partners in the world, i wouldnt be surprised if he could run 12:50, but we won\'t know until he\'s in a race to do that. its really amazing how critical people with no knowledge about him are being of rupp for no reason. he knows what hes doing and what he\'s capable of. you (not anyone specifically, just general d-bags on this site) dont, otherwise youd be his coach

People who think 12:58 (or 12:55) is all Rupp could muster are crazy. He is peaking for the Olympics...

I would say a guy with a 7:27 indoor 3K PR and 12:48 5K PR is wayyy ahead of Rupp. And to everyone comparing the Pre race to today's race in Paris, thats apples and oranges. Rupp was running on his home track, in his hometown, in front of his fans; you really cant get any more on your side than that. He ran well at Pre, but some of the Africans in that race ran pretty shitty as they can often be fairly inconsistent. Rupp on the other hand is a very consistent runner who does not often have bad races and runs to his potential. That being said, thats exactly why he wouldnt have run a huge sub 12:50 PR today. He never has major breakout races with huge PRs, but rather improves in small increments every year. He's about dead even with Bekele right now so would have been mid 12:50's. No reason for all of you to take such offense to any remark challenging Rupper, he's a 12:58 5K guy, and that is it unless he actually runs faster

You're right. That 26:48 was just a small improvement. So was the 3:34 he ran earlier this year. You seem to be forgetting the fact that Rupp is ALWAYS right near the front of the race, regardless of the pace.

Falcon was a 3:49 miler, Bislett champion, and had a great kick. What a shame that injuries did him in! Our 1990s distance runners would look pretty different if he'd been healthy, although competition was coming up at that time (drugs) that would make 3:49 look slow.

Halftight88 wrote:He never has major breakout races with huge PRs, but rather improves in small increments every year

drivel

moron

27'10 ->26'48

The Insider wrote:

You're right. That 26:48 was just a small improvement. So was the 3:34 he ran earlier this year. You seem to be forgetting the fact that Rupp is ALWAYS right near the front of the race, regardless of the pace.

Oh okay, well my apologies then bub, guess I forgot that Rupps 8th-12th place finishes at Worlds and the Olympics counts as being at the front of the race

ventolin^3 wrote:

Halftight88 wrote:He never has major breakout races with huge PRs, but rather improves in small increments every year

drivel

moron

27'10 ->26'48

Cool brah, but please remind me, what place did he get at worlds the week before? Ahh yeah...thought so...bitch tits

break it up wrote:

That last lap in the 5000 is amazing to me in that until the last 50 he didn't look like he was sprinting all out. Look at the famous 1971 European 10k and 5k champs where the Finn closed in 53. They were gritting and sprinting from the bell and Rupp was floating until he was passed close to the finish.

Is there a video of the last few laps?

I saw the race but would like to see the finish again if possible.

BROOOOO wrote:Cool brah, but please remind me, what place did he get at worlds the week before? Ahh yeah...thought so...bitch tits

impress me

i know 26'48.00 as ingrained

tell me pb of the guy immediately ahead of him in daegu ???

Hi just was trying to remember how the Olympic Final...was determined. I mean are our guys gonna make the final race?