if each event had trials a different week, could Lagat qualify in 1500 / 5000 / 10,000 / steeple ? I say YES!

Lagat himself has said he couldn't stay awake through a 10000.

Don't think it's ever going to happen. Given that Lagat and El Guerrouj already ran a 1:46 800 with a 700m flying start (the 2004 Oly 1500 final), it would be interesting to see what he could do the easy way like every other 800 runners.

coach d wrote:

Don't think it's ever going to happen.

Neither do I! It's just a hypothetical discussion about Lagat's awesomeness.

Put it this way: I think that if Lagat were told for some reason he couldn't run the 5000 trials, he could make the team in the 1500. AND if this hypothetical event stopped him from running the 1500, too, we could make the team in either of the 10,000 last week or this week's steeple. Maybe even 800.

His competition:

1500 = Wheating, Manzano

5000 = Nobody

10,000 = Rupp, Ritz

Steeple = Jagr, Huling?

Hell, there's some chance he could even WIN all of these.

he would beat rupp in a 10000 regardless of if its fast or tactical, i hope after the olympics is over lagat gets in the brussells 10000, he could probably run under 26:40.

lagat can get the american half marathon record of 59:43 if he runs it soon (within the next 2 years) as father time will eventually beat him also.

even a 2:04-205 marathon is possible for him.

before or after he started taking EPO?

douglas burke wrote:

he would beat rupp in a 10000 regardless of if its fast or tactical, i hope after the olympics is over lagat gets in the brussells 10000, he could probably run under 26:40.

lagat can get the american half marathon record of 59:43 if he runs it soon (within the next 2 years) as father time will eventually beat him also.

even a 2:04-205 marathon is possible for him.

you should change your screen name to druggie d. burke

LOL. Sounds like he is afraid of the 10k.

That's why Rupp is TWICE the man Lagat will EVER be.

Yes, and you still couldn't get laid.

has to be said wrote:

Yes, and you still couldn't get laid.

Ha! I'm writing this on my phone in bed next to your girl. Or maybe it's your mom? Either way, she hates you.

douglas burke wrote:he would beat rupp in a 10000 regardless of if its fast or tactical, i hope after the olympics is over lagat gets in the brussells 10000, he could probably run under 26:40

no

he woudn't

bernie has got his speed back with that recent 53 finish in 3'34 in new york

he's got to be good for about 3'32-flat in perfect race

no one knows currently his 5k shape, but around 12'50 mark shoud be a given

prelim line of fit is :

51.0 / 1'47.8 ->

3'32.0

4'48.7

7'25.8

12'49.6

26'51.7

of course drafting in the 10k to the end woud help a lot, but rupp is 10s+ better than that over 10k

Agreed with Ventolin on their 'basic' 10,000 ability.

Still convinced that in a trials scenario Lagat beats Rupp in 10,000 nine times out of ten. And of course makes the team.

Does he come back to top-three in the steeple, sub-8:20 the next week?

to run under 26'40 for him woud mean he had world-leading 5k ability by a long way

a prelim for that with still 3'32 is

51.4 / 1'48.2 ->

3'32.1

4'48.4

7'24.4

12'45.5

26'38.5

i don't see 12'45 potential in him at his age

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

Given the way he destroyed the 1500 field at USATF last year, I think 1500 is relatively safe for him.

Destroyed the field? Lagat was second behind Centrowitz last year.

He isn't running 7:25.

err

saidi-thief ran 3'29.5/12'50.8 in '00/'01

he ran 7'25.0, 3rd fastest ever, in same years

( & 4'46.8 - 2nd fastest ever in his only attempt )

he ran that with 2k split of 5'01+, meaning 2'23+ last k & nearly all of the quickening in last lap

he was in 7'22/7'23 shape that day off even pace

bernie is as good/better at 5k currently

( 12'53pb with 54 finish with a 2'40 4th km - it was better than sief's 12'50 with 55 or 56 finish with more even pace all the way thru, iirc )

& that leaves his deficit for 3k with inferior 1500 speed

that'll get him 7'25

sief's prelims "composite" line for '00/'01 -

49.3 / 1'45.3 ->

3'28.9

4'45.4

7'22.8

12'48.9

27.01.5

49.4 / 1'45.5 ->

3'29.3

4'45.9

7'23.6

12'50.1

27.04.0

49.5 / 1'45.6 ->

3'29.3

4'45.9

7'23.2

12'49.1

27.00.7

forgot to add

those 3 lines are also very prelim for bernie '06 when he ran 3'29/12'59

( i off course don't need to further add that that 12'59 was the race where he destroyed kennster with a 51.5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2rHmSKqs2w

)

Could Lagat qualify for the US team in the 800m??

No.

REALLY?!?! wrote:

Could Lagat qualify for the US team in the 800m??

No.

Agreed. Remember when he ran it for the trials in a WC year? He didn't look that great.

rupp-certified saladbar wrote:

has to be said wrote:

Yes, and you still couldn't get laid.

Ha! I'm writing this on my phone in bed next to your girl. Or maybe it's your mom? Either way, she hates you.

I´m homosexual and my mum is 74 years old. Your sexual preferences are certainly weird.