Charles Jock Wire to Wire!!!!

That was a monster run with a pretty stiff wind. Looked like he was going to fade at 600, but he hung tough.

Great! Where are you watching it? Link?

RYAN MARTIN JUST PULLED A MERBER

Martin, just a stupid race dude, your better than that.

jaswk wrote:

That was a monster run with a pretty stiff wind. Looked like he was going to fade at 600, but he hung tough.

I started yelling at 600 thinking of the dude's back story. That last 100m was all balls.

khadevis symmonds wrote:

[quote]jaswk wrote:

That last 100m was all balls.

50 then 55? why do men pace the 800 so poorly?

Good one. But let\'s keep in mind that Montano ran 55/62 ... a 7 second differential.

Good job Charles Jock!

ZOT!!!

Go Jock! I believe this was the first NCAA Championship in track for the Eaters since Steve Scott won the 1500.

Because no man can physically run a 55-50 the demand on the body is too much to drastically drop the pace from an already hard pace.

You'll rarely find a guy that can physically do a 60-55, its not poor pacing, its just smarter to go out hard and hold on in a race of this magnitude.

Even Dave Wottle ran even 26s across the board, never running negative but he held the WR in the 70s

Jim Ryun's WR at 880yd, splits of 53/51 point.

It can be done.

you must be joking if you consider 55 a "hard pace" especially for runners at this level.

To an elite runner most of whom can run a 47 sec 400 55 is like jogging. the main reason guys are running poor splits is to try and avoid trouble, a slower more even pace causes you to make many small accelerations to keep position. a 50 sec first lap keeps things a little more strung out.

You are also wrong about guys running 60-55, it used to be pretty common to negative split, you hang back to stay out of trouble. My biggest negative split was a 63-51, i had been sick and just could not get going, when i heard 63 at the bell i figured i would just run my tail off for the next 200 and drop out. But only about 100 meters in i had passed the whole field except for one guy so i backed off a little and kept going. I caught him in the last 50 meters but could not get around him. I would say in the late 60s and early 70s a good portion of runners ran in the sub 1:48 range running negative splits. In the late 40's i know that was the style and guys were running sub 1:50.

Jock runs that weak against Rudisha and he will be 40 meters back realizing life isn't fair.

Haha, 55 second quarter pace isn't "jogging" for anyone unless they jog 3:40ish miles on recovery days. Even that Russian dude doesn't run negative splits, he runs even splits. Great run for Jock.

Is there a video anywhere?

It's always going to be positive split if run properly. ATP/CP use it or lose it.

http://atfcaviccoaches.org.au/wpblog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/800_pace_distrbn_kp.pdf

what was it, six or seven years ago that is saw this tall young guy bolting to the lead in the california state meet semi final 800m.

i still remember uttering a slow-motion "w o w" and thinking that guy has loads of untapped talent. he must have been 16 years old.