Masters Weekend Runs and Races

Dave - nice 10 mile workout! Are you gearing up for a particular marathon? I haven't done many doubles, so I'll defer to those who have.

I slogged through another 3.5 mile race on Thursday. I was a little faster than the prevous two years, but still had asthma issues that forced me to stop twice. I pain attention to my diet, warmed up longer, and took four hits of albuterol rather than two. At the two mile mark, I was hoping it was mind over matter, but it definitely wasn't. I'll see how I fare when the grass pollen level drops, otherwise I'll go see an allergist. But other than that stretch from mile 2 to 3, the race went pretty well, and my age-graded time was over 83%. My corporate team, which includes two masters, demolished the men's team record and posted one of the top times among all of the qualifying cities.

Given that it's track season now, I think I'll pass on my long run and do some 400s later this morning and maybe an easy few miles later in the afternoon, between rain showers.

Scott

3:58.79 by 40 year old Tony Whiteman at the Nashville meet...that's a mile, 1760 yards not 1500 meters...WTF?!

Rough week here but managed another 50 miles of slogging and surpassed the 99,000 mile marker along the way...look forward to the final 1000...reminds me of an album titled

"Enjoy Every Sandwich"

It's a GREAT time to be a track and field fan and hope to log a few miles with some of you at Eugene's Olympic Trials in 2 more weeks.

be well,

MF

I saw the results of that mile performance by Whiteman. Quite a run! I'm also looking forward to race reports from the 10K road Champs that were this morning.

I'm fighting allergy symptoms and motivational issues lately so nothing major to report. Ran 50+ miles this week but nothing special - except I'm injury free - and I should be happy about that.

Took some time off the past weeks, a pretty good scare regarding my wife's health. All is good, but some stressful days.

Right back at it now, the layoff did not seem to hurt me, so all is good. I did miss a meet in Pasadena which would have been fun and a good test. Starting a mini-streak, now day 4 and should be able to run the table in June.

Will get my ticket to Eugene or Portland this week to run Hayward in mid-July, PDX is usually cheaper and not a bad drive. Am looking forward to running again on that great track after watching the Pre Meet yesterday.

That 3:58 is really great. Portland Festival is this Saturday, hopefully some great results there too!

Have a good week!

I was at the Music City Distance Carnival where Whiteman made history. Tall and tough competitor. Told me he just wanted to win and beat people last night. The mile gunned off about 10:30 under a full moon and cool conditions. Epic moment. He ran 1:48 recently and was on the British Olympic teams for Atlanta and Sydney. Running in Indiana 800 in about 10 days.

What a great performance by Mr Whiteman!! I had the privilege of running this race seven (or was it eight?) years ago and Dave puts on a great meet. Kinda of a european feel running late at night too.

As for my sorry arse - still battling one injury bug after another (sore knee that swells if I run). Good news is that I am getting my full $$ value out of my gym membership by cross training every damn day!

Pre was another great meet with several great stories that the media misses the boat on most of the time. If you ain't an American winning then there is no story! The Morocan gal that ran the 3k looked crazy smooth.

Cheers

no upcoming marathon. Current goal race = twilighter 8k mid-July. I include marathon-pace stuff even in training for shorter races b/c have found that some of my best short races have come during marathon training. Not sure this is airtight logic.

I'm an albuterol person with EIA also. I feel your pain. very frustrating and not always predictable though I do have some trends established (high humidity being one). I'm impressed you were able to regroup and race so well after stopping.

One of the other threads has spelling of the 3:58 mile master as "Wightman" rather than "Whiteman". Anyone know for sure or know his background? That's an amazing performance to state the obvious.

cheers,

Dave

1500, I hope your wife's health returns 100%. Best wishes to both of you.

I used to do "doubles" in high school and college...a 4 to

5 mile jog in the morning and track practice in the afternoon. The last time I tried two workouts in one day I lifted in the late morning and tried to run hurdles that afternoon. NO. I had absolutely no pop or spring in my legs and it took me longer to recover from that day. Unfortunately I think it's an age-thing.

This was a rest week for me after the PA, but 3 days rest was enough so I lifted Thursday and Friday, and ran flights of stadium stairs on Saturday. I really enjoy running stadiums, but I forgot how exhausting they can be. After 25 flights at top sprint speed I was ready to call it a day.

My youngest son graduated from high school last week and although the pressure of school is off, we are now wading through the black hole he calls his bedroom. I want that thing cleaned out! He will join his older brother at UCF in Orlando. They will share an apartment for the upcoming school year.

Hope everyone has a great week ahead!

dhaaga Occasional lurker here but as a master who has added doubling this year I figured I'd pop in a response.

Knowing I was going to up my marathon training to the 100 mpw range this time, earlier in the year when I was still running very modest mileage (30-50) I just started doing some very easy doubles, 20 min - 4 mi. AM with 3-6 PM. I was doing it as much to get used to running in the AM as much as I was getting used to doubles. It was a bit tough at first, but passed fairly quickly since my overall load was very light then.

Most people seem to have one time of day they are used to running. The fact that you are now adding a run at your off time just confuses your routine for awhile - what/when to eat, sleep patterns etc ...

dhaaga,

Constant lurker from your neighborhood. Thanks for helping at the track meet, my kids are running in that track program for the first time this year.

As for doubling, I think it may have to do with being fast or slow twitch. Most years I get a week or two where I can run 70+ miles in a week up from my normal 50-55. As a FT, doing it in singles, I feel it for weeks afterward. Last year, I doubled 5 days for 12 x 6 miles for the week. It actually felt like a rest week.

I should note that back in HS and college I would run 14 x 50 minutes most weeks. So maybe I just had some kind of 30 year flash back. I plan to test it again the week after next. I'll let you know how it goes.

Hi all,

Happy Track Season! Great news about Tony Whiteman...

I got a bit too busy to post for a couple of weeks; I've been trying to train while helping the kids through their end-of-year exams. All finished on Friday, a week's vacation beckons, then it's time to get out and race.

I've been forcing myself to try and run faster than 5k pace for 2-3 weeks, found it really hard but it's all starting to come together.

Weds: 3x (4x400) [1min, 5min] on Wednesday at 68 pace

Sat: Hurdles then 6x400[3min] in 64s, with the last one just under 60. I battled all last summer to hit 60 pace so that's a good sign.

Good luck to all,

- Andy

wow, that is an impressive mile....yikes.

first i would like to congratulate my team mates for some good racing at the SoCal USATF champs last night at UCLA.

Pete Magill ran 15:06 in the 5000 with a 1:06-1:07 last lap. And Christian Tregillis ran a 10:08 steeple, nice runs by both guys.

As for me, I am just now back running after a bad mx crash 6 weeks ago where i broke my big toe, left thump, dislocated my right shoulder, and cracked my right elbow. Ran the Fontana 5000 going 16:44. Course is about 30 seconds fast so maybe a 17:15 on a legit course? In the same race another teammate,Gray Mavhera, went 15:20 for the masters win. Also in the same race a female who i coach went 18:44 for the overall and masters win.

Overall a good weekend of racing and running and here is to me being able to at least run again. ALthough with him going 3:58 i wonder why I run hahaha :)

Thank you. She was showing signs of MS - a lot of them. Bloodwork, 3 MRI's later showed this is not the culprit thankfully. Could be thyroid related - she has Hashimoto's and had a dose change not that long ago. We'll find out what is causing everything...

KevinB - you know running and MX never mix. We're working with Ryan Dungey and the KTM team this year - great group. Some of the MX courses would make for some very challenging XC racing....

USATF 10K Road Champs... my KC Smoke teammate Kevin Miller - 3rd place in 33 flat. Kevin, M50, won age grade too. Congrats Kevin!

Also, big props to Whiteman on breaking 4 minutes! Wow!

Looking forward to meeting several of you guys in Portland next weekend.

Ran six days this week as well as two weight lifting sessions. Feels great.

Even had someone say you are the guy I see running for an hour all the time. Nice to be referred to as a runner.

Well I have run twice a day since college 20 more years ago. I am a teacher, so just an easy shake out run before school then an afternoon run to get rid of the stress of the day. This is mostly a school year routine, twice a day 3 to 4 of the 5 days. No really hard workouts that beat up the body, I race mostly off of my strength that I have accumulated over the past three decades- that is a scary thing to say- 3 decades! Summers are only a longer run in the morning. Having recently turned 48, I notice that I do not recover as well doing doubles as much, so after this summer, I am going to "re-think" my school year training..Any suggestions?

One great thing about doing double workouts, it keeps the metabolism going and I am almost at the same weight I was in college by 3 to 4 pounds.

Looking forward to seeing some of you at Clingan's Mile next Saturday in Portland. I'm not fit enough to earn an official bib number but Dave is allowing me to try and help Nolan go after the AR & WR for M60-64. Hell he might be helping me to just get under 5:00!

See y'all Saturday.

KP

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