ANOTHER FRESHMAN RUNS 9:04 in 3200m!!!!

.... so he didn't run 9:04.

Why must you turn this place into a house of lies?

What was the altitude and does anyone remember how much time Puskedra dropped at sea level? The NCAA allows 13 seconds for 3000 from 5,500'. Personally, I think that's too conservative as most prep runners from Colorado drop a lot more than that. Some have the conversion at .97 and I personally think about two seconds per lap for two miles and above is about right at that altitude. Salt Lake City is 1,000' lower and doesn't get nearly the adjustment.

Still impressive for a frosh and worth a sub-9:10 if it was @ 4,500'.

*maybe

Also, did he have competition?

I think the really important question that everyone seems to have forgotten to ask here is...

DID HE LOOK RELAXED???

Why not just say, a freshman runs 9:18 at altitude? Then speculate what it was worth in the thread, not have a misleading thread title. Just saying.

WHY NOT SAY FRESHMAN RUN 7:25 2MILE CONVERTED TO 0 RESISTANCE ON ALTER-G TREADMILL?????

my comment was deleted before.

a 918 is a 918, a 422 is a 422...conversion are stupid. you run a time, you run a time.

impressive nonetheless though, just not a 904, ever.

gruelster wrote:

my comment was deleted before.

a 918 is a 918, a 422 is a 422...conversion are stupid. you run a time, you run a time.

Ridiculous. You run 9:18 at 7,500', it's definitely worth better. You run it at 5,500' and the NCAA gives you 13-14 seconds. You run it at 4,300' in SLC, and maybe it's worth a second per lap. Not a 9:04 though.

The state record in CO used to be over 9:30 back in the early to mid-80s, despite the rich running tradition here (though some kids had run non-state times of 9:25). I remember the cross country and mile champion, who never broke 9:30 for the 3200, but ran 9:12 at the Sun Angel Classic or whatever it was called at the time.

A lot of CO kids drop their times dramatically when they go down to sea level, which they rarely ever used to have the opportunity to do. And this was before the era of high mileage. There are countless other examples as CO kids started going to sea level and instantly became sub-9:00 and even sub-8:50 guys. And that's without the benefit of being able to get the wheels turning up here to get used to the fast pace.

Looks like there are a lot of freshman minds on the boards who are jealous of this kids skills.

SO NCAA OFFICAILY WILL GIVE ABOUT 20.71 SECONDS OFF A 5K RUN at that elevation.

After looking at the conversion charts it looks like the original estimates are pretty accurate. It was originally said that his performance is somewhere in between 9:04-9:06

It is probably more like 9:05-9:07.

So don't brown your briefs over a second.

Also those that have run Utah and follow track would know that when people run a time on that track and then go low elevation they usually go faster than what the NCAA would gives them.

Just keep an eye on this kid.

So I thought you were making that up I looked it up and you are right so this kid is right on Elijah Armstrong's heels.

Looks like He ran the equivalent of a 9:05-9:07 according to NCAA

Kanye North wrote:

.... so he didn't run 9:04.

1=1=2

9:18 in Utah = 9:05ish maybe 9:04.99 at best

9:05ish does not equal 9:04 But it is close enough

Thanks for the math lesson.

I have to say that you guys are right, generally runners will go faster at a low elevation race than what NCAA give you for altitude adjustment.

I wouldn't be surprised if He can improve his 9:05ish run to 9:04 or faster.

I wonder if he will be able to go sub 9

So another guy around 9:04 I wonder what this kid looks like.

Elijah Armstrong looks like a normal freshman. He more ripped than the norm but I am buying it.

I hope this kid isn't a verzbikas or like Alan webb.

Webb looked like a senior in college when he was a senior in highschool.

Maybe what the mayans foresaw was not the apocalypse but the absolute destruction of track records around the world.

It is crazy to think that there are 2 freshman running that far below 9:10.

The MOST IMPORTANT question is were there pacers in the race and alongside the final stretch, and was there a barrier or at least cones on the curves? Finally, to be safe, did the starter use the proper starting gun?

Two freshman running 9:06 or under. I hope that they don't burn out and can do some sick things by their senior year.