Is this the first time a Canadian distance record>U.S. distance record?

Yeah, and I hope you morons up north remember that he did it in the NCAA system... like every other decent performance in the history of Canada.

ben johnson? donovan bailey? STFU.

^lol this guy just used Ben Johnson as an example of a Canadian system success.

^This^

Cam Levins is a year and a half older than Chris Derrick.

sfasdfasdf wrote:

ben johnson?

STFU.

i dont even...

isn't it an american collegiate record if you are running for an american college/university?

shouldn't CL have the american collegiate record?

seems like kind of a stupid distinction if not.

The point I don't understand is why people even mention the "American" collegiate record - why does anyone who is serious about the sport even care? The Collegiate record is the only one that should matter to a Collegiate athlete (27.08 by Chelanga in this case). Anything else is being petty and "nationalistic". Derrick lost to another Collegian (Levins), whether he broke a silly "record" like Rupps really says a lot about the American mindset, and it's not very flattering.

Live Free Or Fry Hard wrote:

Cam Levins is a year and a half older than Chris Derrick.

What does that have to do with anything?

The American collegiate record is kind of silly but not because it's American only. It's silly because guys from BYU and elsewhere can be collegians at 26 or 28. Rupp set his 10k ACR a few days shy of his 21st birthday. Derrick is just over 21. It's not meaningless to compare performances at this stage of development in their careers.

There should be Junior records (under 19), Under 23 records (for collegiate aged athletes), general records (any age), and then masters age group records starting at 40.

Reality Bath wrote:

10000 CCR v. ACR

To answer the question, I can think of one other situation.

The indoor collegiate 1000m record was held by a Canadian for 20 years (1986 - 2006) with the "American" collegiate record being a tiny bit slower.

( ironicly, the guy who held the "American" collegiate 1000m record, Gwain Guy from rice, didn't make the US Olympic Team so he ran for Jamacia in the Olympics using a B standard and the fact that he had a parent from there,... Go figure, American collegiate record holder representing another country in the Okympics!)

Now that I think of it, in the early 80's. Canadian Greame Fell held the collegiate indoor record in the 3k, while Ron Becht held the indoor 2k, so Canadians held 1k, 2k and 3k. ( with 2k and 1k not run that often although the 1k was an NCAA championship event for a number of years)

sfasdfasdf wrote:

ben johnson? donovan bailey? STFU.

Ah yes I remember Big Ben Johnson one of Canada's finest distance athletes.

captain and me wrote:

The point I don't understand is why people even mention the "American" collegiate record - why does anyone who is serious about the sport even care? The Collegiate record is the only one that should matter to a Collegiate athlete (27.08 by Chelanga in this case). Anything else is being petty and "nationalistic". Derrick lost to another Collegian (Levins), whether he broke a silly "record" like Rupps really says a lot about the American mindset, and it's not very flattering.

Nationalistic? You do know that the N in NCAA stands for National don't you?

Can someone hook me up with a link to NCAA T&F records?

What's the story with Chelanga's 27:08?

The was a Canadian in the 1964 Olympic 10,000 who held the World Junior Recods for 5000 and 10,000 right before Gerry Lindgren.

Also Doug Consiglio, a Canadian, held the collegiate record for 1000 meters.

break it up wrote:

The was a Canadian in the 1964 Olympic 10,000 who held the World Junior Recods for 5000 and 10,000 right before Gerry Lindgren.

That would be Bruce Kidd.

think about it wrote:

Nationalistic? You do know that the N in NCAA stands for National don't you?

The NCAA is not limited to U.S. schools.

Dan

The Canadian university system is about as competitive as DII/DIII or any major DI conference. If you are serious about university level running (regardless of where you come from) you go to the US. There are a few exceptions - Guelph being one of them.

This is the US's comparative advantage - dozens of schools which are willing to pour millions and millions of dollars into athletic programs. This does not happen anywhere else in the world on the scale you see in the US.